Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Too funny. Now you are trying to say natural immunity is better the whole time LOL. You can't make this up. Dude, there is a reason no one came to your defense. You literally have dozens of posts arguing that the vaccine is as effective or better than natural immunity. You are like a politician, never wrong. So awesome. You've gone completely Charlie Crist on me. So awesome.

 

Discredited article (see below). Also, the ratios of unvaccinated people dying from Covid verses those with bad outcomes from vaccinations are significantly different.

The problem is we humans are notoriously bad with large numbers. Because of this, we allow anecdotes and fear mongering rule the day.

Big numbers: A Small Problem With Big Numbers

Fact check: False: Over 200 athletes suffered cardiac arrests and at least 100 of them died after getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

 

Just a quick PSA for those who believe their previous infection is good. More studies will obviously come on this, but early results suggest previous infection does little to stop omicron.

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Dude. Reading comprehension. Some studies show vaccine is better. Others show natural immunity is better. We need to do more research to figure out in what conditions natural is better, and other what conditions, the vaccine seems to work better. What are the variables that are important that causes the different study outcomes? Race? Age? Time? Vaccine used? Variant? Something else?

I've been saying this since October. Sorry if you don't understand or refuse to understand. I'm not the only one who feels this way, as I linked three separate Medical Groups including Johns Hopkins that basically said the same thing. Immunity is complicated, and we need to figure out the conditions where natural immunity is superior, and what conditions where the vaccine is better to better understand the virus.

I don't think I can spell it out any simpler. But I await with baited breath how you're going to try and spin your way out of this loss again.

 

There you go thinking the vaccine is just as good. It's that simple. It's awesome watching you paint yourself into a corner. So awesome. Keep tap dancing. You are like the CDC and their mask "studies" LOL. You just don't get it. No one is coming to bail you out because no one actually believes that the vaccine is anywhere close to natural immunity, except you and the drug companies and those funded by the drug companies. Good job!

 

The first studies, like this one from Kentucky, or this one from August all showed vaccine immunity to be superior. Then, the Israel study came out, followed by the other study you linked showing natural immunity to be superior. We also have the CDC study from late Oct that again favored vaccine immunity. Someone truly following the science doesn't just look at the largest study and claims just because it's the biggest, it must be the best, and case closed. Especially since the largest study has some flaws, like selection bias.

And if you really think this is settled, here's another person with a MD who disagrees.

As long as there have been vaccines against COVID-19, there have been arguments for why people shouldn't get those vaccines. One of the more persistent—and hairier—arguments is that people who have already been infected with the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, don't need a vaccine. An infection will generate immune responses similar to those generated by vaccines, the thinking goes. So, why waste coveted vaccine doses on people who already have immune responses against the virus—which may also needlessly put those people at risk of vaccine side effects, however rare?

It's a reasonable question, and there is legitimate scientific debate about it. There are also different approaches to the issue in terms of public health policy. In Israel, for example, people who have recovered from COVID-19 after testing positive on a PCR test can get a vaccination "Green Pass" that's valid for up to six months. The pass allows them entry into various places just as it does for people who are fully vaccinated. In the European Union, some member states offer a similar "Digital COVID Certificate" to people who have recovered from COVID-19 and received just one dose of a two-dose mRNA vaccine regimen.

In the US, however, public health officials are unequivocal in their approach: people are categorized as either vaccinated or unvaccinated, regardless of prior infection. It's an approach with many strengths, including robust scientific data supporting vaccination for people who have recovered. That data—which we'll get into below—has consistently shown that immune responses from natural infections are extremely variable, thus unreliable. Vaccines, on the other hand, have repeatedly been proven to generate highly protective immune responses.
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Another medical professional who agrees there is an ongoing debate on which is better, and that it's not settled yet. And that, "immune responses from natural infections are extremely variable, thus unreliable." Which is why a more predictable, and traceable vaccine is the better option.

There have been cases where natural immunity has been better. And cases where vaccine has proven more effective. It's not settled science. Plenty of medical professionals agree it's not settled too.

 

LOL. There you go pal. I can count on you to never give up the losing argument. That's like MD's saying smoking was ok in the 50's/60's. Everyone else got on the life raft but you. Commendable LOL.

 

Live look at AZ:

 

I live in a desert.

And it's just me, and the doctors from Johns Hopkins, and the other medical groups I linked to that all say there is still a spirited debate. Sorry if I take their opinion over ours. And in the spirit of good fun, here's a live look at 95.

 

“ A Duke Health professional is pleading for people to get their COVID-19 booster shot in light of new evidence.

A new study reveals that a Moderna booster protects people 50 times more against the omicron variant of the COVID-19 virus compared to just the standard two-dose regimen of the Moderna vaccine. Dr. David Montefiori, a virologist at Duke Health, conducted the study in recent weeks to determine the effects of the omicron variant on the Moderna vaccine.”

Duke, NIH study shows Moderna booster shot provides 50 times greater protection against omicron :: WRAL.com

 

The study by Imperial College London suggests the protection against reinfection by Omicron from past infection may be as low as 19 per cent.

Geez man you just don't get it. Just like vaccines with booster shots, you should seek a booster infection to broaden your natural immunity. Omicron may fit that bill nicely.

Lesson Over. Winning!!

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/12/covid-cases-omicron-highly-contagious/621038/

A lot has changed for Omicron in just two weeks. At December’s onset, the variant was barely present in Europe, showing up in 1 to 2 percent of COVID cases. Now it’s accounting for 72 percent of new cases in London, where everybody seems to know somebody with COVID. In the U.K. and Denmark, Omicron case numbers are doubling every other day. The same exponential growth is happening—or will happen—in the United States too, just in time for the holidays.

The most intriguing unknown—the one in which we might like to place our hopes—is whether Omicron could be milder than Delta. But a milder, more transmissible virus can easily sicken so many people that it ends up increasing hospitalizations and deaths on the whole. Here is some simple math to explain the danger: Suppose we have two viruses, one that is twice as transmissible as the other. (For the record, Omicron is currently three to five times as transmissible as Delta in the U.K.—though that number is likely to fall over time.) And suppose it takes five days between a person’s getting infected and their infecting others. After 30 days, the more transmissible virus is now causing 26, or 64, times as many new cases as the less transmissible one. Exponentials are one hell of a growth hack. If we are banking on the idea that Omicron is more mild to get us through winter, then we had better hope that it’s really, really mild.

If there are no changes to behavior or policy, this year’s winter wave would peak at about double the hospitalizations of last winter at its worst, and 20 percent more deaths, according to the most pessimistic of projections from Meyers and her team at the University of Texas at Austin. The team gamed out a total of 18 scenarios, based on different guesses for the variant’s inherent transmissibility and immune escape, booster uptake, and the vaccines’ effectiveness against hospitalization and death. The most optimistic projection sees a caseload similar to last winter’s, but hospitalizations and deaths at about half of where they were back then, assuming the vaccines keep up their very high protection against severe ill

 

NFL postpones three Week 15 games due to COVID-19 surge

A surge in COVID-19 cases across the NFL and United States as a whole has resulted in the postponement of multiple Week 15 games.

The league announced Friday that Saturday's game between the Las Vegas Raiders and the Cleveland Browns has been moved to Monday, while Sunday's meetings between the Washington Football Team and the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams have been moved to Tuesday.

"The emergence of the Omicron variant is precisely the kind of change that warrants a flexible response," Goodell wrote in a memo obtained by NFL Network's Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero.

 

Hopefully Omicron will burn out faster so while the peak will be the highest yet, it won't last nearly as long. And based on numbers out of South Africa and the UK, the death rate seems lower (though with more infections there could be more total deaths). If this hits the unvaccinated hard, sucks for them, but you can't fix stupid.

 

The latest surge has started in Florida. Average daily cases up triple from 3 weeks ago.

 

NYC is putting out data on cases and age-adjusted hospitalization per 100K people. Unsurprisingly, the unvaccinated group has been consistently more likely to get Covid and to be hospitalized with Covid. Now that the Omicron spike is starting, that difference is increasing rapidly.



COVID-19: Latest Data - NYC Health

 

It does but only for the spike protein.

 

My wife was able to get her booster shot and my oldest daughter was able to get her first shot this week. My daughter will get her second shot when I get my booster in a few weeks (Log4j has kept me busy).

 

The nfl with almost 100% vaccinated seeing numbers it has never seen. The good news is this group is low risk. And likely will not see any serious issues.

People need to stop letting the fear control them.

We are enjoying a great weekend with family and family friends in Palm Coast. Can’t wait for the Christmas Boat Parade tomorrow.

 

This is starting to get really serious. There’s a potential that this could eventually impact millions of people whose fantasy football playoffs start this week