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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    That isn't a study. I posted a large study on "long covid". Again, here are the findings:

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  2. gator95

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    The study says yes lets do more research but at this time anything other than loss of smell is not associated with "long covid". Re-read the study. You are reading one line and drawing a conclusion based off of that. Loss of smell only thing that is persistent in that study. The data is the data.
     
  3. QGator2414

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    The early data is that omicron is going to be good news in the grand scheme. Hopefully the public health officials will stop pushing the hysteria that have been. Though that is a lot to ask considering they already went hysterical over omicron for no reason...
     
  4. PITBOSS

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    From that study - “A medical evaluation of these patients may be needed to prevent symptoms due to another disease being erroneously attributed to “long COVID.”

    The point of that study isn’t to confirm if long term effects from covid exist, it’s for one if people even had covid to begin with

    “Question Are the belief in having had COVID-19 infection and actually having had the infection as verified by SARS-CoV-2 serology testing”

    Also, if someone has ongoing problems to not just assume it is due to covid. Could be something else and docs need to be open to checking other items.

    “A medical evaluation of these patients may be needed to prevent symptoms due to another disease being erroneously attributed to “long COVID.”

    No way that gives indication or even close to confirmation that someone can’t have long term effects from covid. Of course not everyone who had it will, but yes some do.

    why are you making the claim there aren’t any?
    - what’s behind it? Is it a overall theme That covid isn’t a big deal?
     
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  5. gator95

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    They did a study. I posted the results of said study. There was 1 long term issue from "long covid". It was loss of smell. End of discussion. You can keep thinking otherwise. The rest of the world will move on. Sorry the study didn't align with your preconceived notions. Maybe next time.
     
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  6. AzCatFan

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    There was a British study in over 1,700 kids. 4.4% had long haul symptoms, and that included more than just loss of smell. 1 in about 23 kids isn't much, but compare it with the incidence of myocarditis with the vaccine, and long haul happens a lot more. And according to Yale Medical, the hypothesis is there are COVID particles that remain in some that causes an immune response that causes inflammation. And if that inflammation is around the heart, long haul can potentially cause MIS-C, which is potentially fatal.

    Long haul symptoms after a virus isn't anything new. There are some cold viruses that often cause coughs for a couple of weeks, even after a person has fully recovered. There are those who certainly suffer long haul symptoms from COVID, and it's rare when it lasts more than a few weeks. But there those who have suffered longer, or worse symptoms than a lingering cough. And we still don't know exactly how or why long haul happens. All the more reason to get vaccinated.
     
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  7. philnotfil

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    But wouldn't it be easier to tell everyone that there is no such thing as long haul symptons from covid?
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    There is almost no risk to a healthy kid.

    If one wants to inject their kid with a new drug for a disease that is of no danger to them…their call. My kids will not be anywhere close to one of these new drugs.
     
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  9. gatorchamps960608

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    Hysteria = 800k dead and counting
     
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  10. gator95

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    Hmmm, how many in the control group reported "long covid" symptoms?
     
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  11. gator95

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    Hint, there isn't. Data shows that. But you keep that head in the sand.
     
  12. philnotfil

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    Some data says that. But you keep ignoring the rest of the data.
     
  13. philnotfil

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    COVID-19 preventable mortality and leading cause of death ranking - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

     
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  14. VAg8r1

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    I date back to the period before the MMR vaccine was available. For the overwhelming majority of children, measles, mumps and rubella were very common childhood diseases in which the overwhelming majority of children who were infected experienced full recoveries. The MMR vaccine is now mandatory for virtually all school children because in a rare number of cases those viral infections can be serious and in the case of measles can cause permanent disability or in extremely rare cases even death. In the case of Covid-19, besides the rare serious case, children infected with the virus can pass it on to more vulnerable adults. Again rare it does happen often enough that prevention is a rational strategy.
    U.S. pediatricians say Covid cases in children are on the rise.
    Youngest Kids More Likely to Spread COVID-19 to Family: Study
    Youngest meaning preteen.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    It is a terrible disease. And we know who is vulnerable now. No need for the hysteria…
     
  16. mdgator05

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    So how are you planning to protect the vulnerable or are you okay with just letting them die and shrugging your shoulders while saying "virus going to virus?"
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    Completely different disease and drugs.

    You want to put a new drug in your kid (especially a young boy) when they are at no real risk from the disease. Your call.

    My kids will be nowhere near these drugs. They will be outside and being healthy though.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    People can take the steps they need to take based on their risk profile. We know how the disease spreads and the vaccinate and unvaccinated should take precautions accordingly….
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    There were vaccine skeptics in the 1960s when the MMR vaccine came out. Many of the same arguments you make. The virus isn't that dangerous to kids. Natural immunity is better. Yada Yada Yada. Thankfully, the Internet wasn't around back then, and we vaccinated enough to reach herd immunity. Won't be the same story with COVID, because of people like you.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    These are completely different diseases and completely different drugs.

    But carry on. I really hope you get back to seeing family and friends on the regular again soon. It is huge for mental health and the development of your kids.

    My unvaccinated parents (had Covid) will be here again next week. Will get to see my vaccinated in-laws as well as family friends this coming weekend at the Christmas boat parade that starts in the basin by our house in Palm Coast….

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