Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

People should note that this poster often misconstrues, misleads, and willfully omits information. For example, the FDA adiv. board 9 weeks ago absolutely approved booster shots for nearly ANYONE over age 65 , based on the data at that point. One month later, based on further data ( this is called science BTW) then approved boosters for nearly all over age 16. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Expands Eligibility for COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters

 

LOL, fill your vaccine card and get a free Pfauci bobble head doll...still hard to believe a rational covid discussion is even allowed on youtube any more.

 

Yes if you watch the video the three vaccinated doctors all agree with that recommendation. And all three agree that boosters for everyone is not where they are based on the data.

But posters like this one are so tunnel visioned they believe things that are not true about other posters. It would be humorous how well propaganda works if it were not so dangerous.

I did not willfully omit anything. I even stated the fda did not approve for healthy people. Unfortunately some get their panties in a wad because I did not say those over 65 or for healthcare workers but instead linked the source stating that. If I wanted to willfully hide sometime I would not cite the source saying it. Grow up!

 

I actually enjoy zdogg as he provides a differing view than mine on the issues of Covid (some we see the same) but without the arrogance and fear (every once in a while he slips in the fear narrative).

I think the propaganda is so strong now though that some of our friends here on too hot are not going to be able to accept reality.

 

If you are not up to date as in your first misleading assertion from mid-Sept. in comparison to the subsequent announcement a month later from the same FDA board that you cited, then you embarrass yourself for lack of diligence. If, as I suspect, you ignored the more recent announcement from YOUR source, you willfully mislead. Furthermore, if your source is FB, Twitter, or a hr. long propaganda farce on YouTube, you've lost already. SMH.
Isn't odd that you cite the FDA when you can pull out something to partially support your narrative, then in the same post, refute the FDA as well? Did I say odd.... more like pathetic.

 

it reduces your odds materially, enough that it’s worthwhile given once you get the disease you are 16 to 37 times more likely to get it (myocarditis), and 6 times more likely vs vaccine. So even if the vaccine only prevents 50% infection you are better off. Plus it isn’t clear but perhaps it is also correlated with severity and a post vaccination infection is likely less severe than an unvaccinated infection.



Myocarditis is more common after covid-19 infection than vaccination| New Scientist

Myocarditis, COVID-19 & the Vaccine

Association Between COVID-19 and Myocarditis...


Study: Myocarditis risk 37 times higher for children with COVID-19 than uninfected peers | AAP News | American Academy of Pediatrics

 

This is hilarious. My source is a doctor whom I actually disagree with on a lot when it comes to these new drugs. I like to hear perspectives I disagree with. But carry on. The propaganda is strong…

 

It only works for a few months, hence the drug companies wanting booster shots every 6 months or so. And where is the data that the vaccine prevents 50% infection? For how long? Then when you get a booster shot what is the increase in odds for myocarditis in children? You'd think the FDA would've researched that but they didn't want to know the answer or have a discussion about it. Wonder why?

 

The data is in multiple places in this thread. Google is your friend. The vaccine provides at least some protection against infection even beyond 6 months. It provides substantial protection against severe disease at least a year and likely longer. And if you need to get a booster every so often what’s the big deal. I already have mine. I’ll get my 17 year old done this month so that we can all breathe easier visiting my 85+ year old parents over christmas break.

your whole vaccine/ myocarditis danger premise has been blown out of the water. Now of course you will deflect, deny, lie, and make up stuff in order to try to save face.

 

A fourth tell. Wow. It'll be okay. We already all knew you don't usually know what you are talking about. You don't have to keep emphasizing it through a combo of outright lies, deflections, and cognitive dissonance. There is a reason people don't bring up your past embarrassing moments constantly, it is because they happen so often. This is another one, so nobody needs to bring up things like when you thought Covid wasn't a disease because, on this point, you proven that you also don't have any idea what statistical significance is. Lol.

Good luck with your fifth tell about how I was wrong about schools (a lie as has been pointed out to you many times), lockdowns (a deflection and a complete matter of opinion given that they have been proven consistently to lower infection rates, so it becomes a question of proper balancing), and masks (cognitive dissonance given the largest study on the issue, just published in a little known outlet Science, stated that you were wrong).

 

it is amazing how he'd rather go down in flames being wrong and looking like an idiot vs man up and admit he is wrong. He has all these hot sports opinions about medical issues yet it doesn't even understand what statistical significance is. That's gotta hurt.

 

It's not only the incidence of myocarditis, it's the severity of the disease that's important. In those vaccinated, lower number of cases per 100,000, and cases are less severe. No deaths, and extremely low hospitalization numbers, and zero deaths. With kids who get myocarditis from COVID, hundreds of documented cases that ended up with MIS-C, and unfortunately, deaths associated with this as well.

The wife and I already have our boosters. 16-year old daughter isn't eligible until February, and 8-year old got his second shot two weeks ago. If we need to visit a Walgreens for 30-minutes every six months for boosters, what's the big deal? We already do, and there's a Walgreens .4 mile from my house. We visit more frequently than once every six months already.

 

Michigan getting hammered…..

“At Spectrum Health West Michigan, the intensive care units are operating at 147% of their traditional capacity, Elmouchi said.

“Roughly around three-quarters of COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths were in unvaccinated people from Oct. 21 to Nov. 19, according to state data.”

"That tells us the importance of being vaccinated," he said. "And that's what's so heartbreaking for our teams, is that they see all these people that are so sick, being on the ventilator and even dying, and they know it's preventable. It's heart-wrenching."

What's behind the 'dire' COVID-19 surge in Michigan?

 

These severity surges are going to continue to happen until most unvaccinated have gotten natural immunity or have died. That's kind of what happened with FL.

 

It's not blown out of the water whatsoever, except by those with an agenda. And you have one. No big deal. You vaccinated your kids. Your call. Zero chance my kids will be vaccinated before they go to college. You keep making up crap, some on here buy it. Sorry that my facts don't lie.

 

No one likes a sore loser dude. Just run along to another thread where you haven't been exposed as a fraud. Good try.

 

The chart in that link is crazy. You can see the delta surge already happening a bit throughout the fall, but then it spikes totally vertical in November.

 

Maybe the govt can figure out a way to fire even more health care workers, that should help.

 

Haha, okay. Let me know when you figure out what statistical significance is. Perhaps you should try threads that don't involve scientific research until you do. Good luck!

 

If there is a greater than zero probability 95 understands the concept of statistical significance, it certainly isn't statistically significant.