Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

so complaints about americans coming in from covid china are ok, but proven unvaccinated people from central america, haiti, mexico are not, right?

 

No, because they are entirely based upon your feelings about the people, not public health metrics. That is pretty obvious. Let's two incredibly important public health differences:

1. When we were letting people back in from China (except people with a Chinese passport), they were leaving an area of high infection and going into an areas of much lower infection. That makes a quarantine a proper strategy if you are trying to lower the risk of transmission on the second region.

Currently, we are an area with high infection rates. So a quarantine is not nearly as effective of a preventative measure, as we are spreading it around ourselves.

2. We detain immigrants for a period of time, which allows for the examination of whether somebody is sick or not.

We did not do that on returnees and just let them join a huge group and then sent everybody from that group out to the general public within a matter of hours.

 

Uhh…he just banned travel from all of South Africa and 6 other countries…all from Africa.

So again, I’m just curious how long before the Left assails this indiscriminate, xenophobic, racist African ban.

 

Did he ban travel or did he ban citizens of those countries from traveling to the US? There is a difference.

 

how hard would it be to travel to a non affected area and just fly in?

 

Outside of expats, is there effectively any difference?

 

Not too easy when most places are implementing similar bans.

 

At this point? Probably not as big of a difference as in 2020 due to the lack of international travel over the last couple of years. In 2020, it led to 10s of thousands rushing into the US, as tourists and people in China on business all rushed to get back into the country. That was the point of my criticism of that policy in 2020. If we did exactly the same thing as we did in 2020, it is worthy of some criticism, although, as you pointed out, probably not as much as the functional difference between the policy and a public health optimal policy is not as wide.

 

It’s Africa…. Not Australia, there can’t cross the state border into QSL with being vaccinated and having a negative test..

 

Yes, it is Africa. You want to try to leave the countries on the list on land and find a flight out? Let me know how that goes and how many weeks it would take. Africa is difficult for travel.

 

Some hopeful news.

Novavax developing vaccine that targets new COVID-19 variant

 

Amazing how often you get things wrong.

 

Surprised you didn't suggest obamicron

 

that us for the next strain

 

I guess you missed it, or have conveniently forgotten some of us have good memory’s however.

When travel bans were “bad”
Coronavirus travel ban: Why experts fear it could backfire - CNN


“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders," Jennifer Nuzzo, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told lawmakers on Capitol Hill this week. "These measures may exacerbate the epidemic's social and economic tolls. And can make us less safe."

Numerous articles out there saying the same thing and calling them xenophobic.

 

Florida reports lowest daily coronavirus cases per capita in nation | Fox News

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

The Sunshine State reported a daily average of 1,393 coronavirus cases as of Friday, six per 100,000, which was a two percent decrease over the last two weeks.

DeSantis has been slammed by critics in the media since the start of the pandemic over his opposition to government-imposed mask and vaccine mandates. In 2020, DeSantis was accused by a Democratic politician of going on a "killing spree" for opposing mask mandates and a Vanity Fair headline from September of this year referred to the governor as an "angel of death."

At the same time Florida reported the lowest amount of new cases in the country per capita, coronavirus cases are surging in many states where strict lockdown orders were issued by Democratic governors.

Michigan, where Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer imposed some of the most controversial restrictions in the nation during the height of the pandemic, leads the nation in daily coronavirus cases per capita.

"It just shows once again the success of Governor DeSantis’s science based and data based policies," DeSantis Press Secretary Christina Pushaw told Fox News Digital about the case levels in Florida. "He’s always made decisions based on the data and that continued even during the Delta surge this summer what he realized would help was not mask mandates in school or lockdowns but provide treatment that actually works."

 

He didn’t halt flights. Plenty of flights came in, loaded down with US citizens and the virus because trump and his basket of idiots believed the virus wouldn’t travel based on passport.

 

Halting flights won't make a bit of difference when you've got the thousands of people walking in and then scattered to the wind official immigration policy.

 

I doubt there are many South Africans coming across the Mexican border.

 

Just thought I would share this here as well for anyone unfortunate enough to test positive for COVID. If you are not interested in FDA approved treatments, the link below is the largest trial investigating Ivermectin and/or Fluvoximine in the treatment of early COVID (first week of infection). You can actually contact the folks directly if you have a positive test within the past 72 hours and enroll for the treatment (or placebo I guess).

This will be the largest controlled trial studying effects of Ivermectin and Fluvoximine in the US to date.

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