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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    Ooops.

    Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery

    In the modern era, there has also been a scarcity of experimental evidence to support the effectiveness of facemasks in the prevention of surgical site infections. The earliest retrospective studies7 failed to demonstrate any statistically significant improvement in surgical site infection rates following the use of masks. Indeed, the latest National Institute for Health and Care Excellence guidelines on the matter do not require operating staff to wear a mask in theatre.8 This decision was based primarily upon the findings of a Cochrane systematic review.9 This review was guided by the findings of two particular randomised/quasi-randomised control trials.10,11 The latest update of this review,12 which was amended after the publication of current National Institute for Health and Care Excellence guidelines, included one further study.13

    The Cochrane review12 searched through six established databases (Appendix 1) looking for randomised control trials and quasi-randomised control trials investigating surgical outcomes comparing the use of disposable surgical masks with the use of no masks. The authors limited the scope of their analysis only to patients undergoing clean procedures (whereby the operating procedure does not enter a body cavity or viscus normally colonised by bacteria). The review chose not to investigate the role of mask in clean-contaminated, contaminated or dirty wounds as one would expect that masks would contribute less towards the prevention of surgical site infections under such circumstances. Primary outcomes of postoperative surgical wound infection and secondary outcomes of costs, length of hospital stay and mortality rates were ascertained.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Actually there is no data to support it. Like wearing masks now for covid has no data to support it. Weird how that happens.
     
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  3. gator95

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    I wonder why the CDC didn't study FL last year? Weird because there was no difference in the schools who had mask mandates versus those who didn't have a mandate. Just lucky I guess...
     
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    I got blasted for posting a research article from 2016 that was removed by The Oral Health Group. Touched on a lot of this. End of the day. The main reason for a mask in these surgical settings is more to protect the wearer from large large droplets. Also the patient. But more the wearer as typically in that setting the the healthcare providers are hopefully not symptomatically sick. And the real threat is large particle splatter is likely coming from the procedure.

    Yet we are told that we need to protect others by wearing something that does not stop hardly any particle that will remain airborne long enough to be a consequential threat.

    Here is the article (posted by a different source) that was removed in 2020 once it did not fit the narrative…

    Why Face Masks Don’t Work: A Revealing Review - John Hardie, PhD, Oral Health Group (2016) - Evidence Not Fear
     
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  6. gatordavisl

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    I know. Almost as if it's a dynamic scientific phenomenon. :emoji_thinking:
     
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  7. BLING

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    I need simple and immediate answers dammit!!!!!
     
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  8. gator95

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  10. gatordavisl

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    The covid map has changed substantially over the past month or so. At the height of delta the SE was all red. Now states like FL, LA, & GA have lightened in color. Dense population centers (NYC, Boston, LA, Chi) are all light colored. With AL and some parts of TX excepted, the darkest states now appear to be KY, WV, parts of Maine, the upper midwest (IA, MN, WI), WY, MT, NV, and OR. What do seemingly all of the darkest places have in common? Sparsely populated. :emoji_thinking:
    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
     
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  11. WESGATORS

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    COVID Data Tracker

    FL's new hospitalizations have been dropping like the weekly attendance at RZF.

    Alachua County adult COVID hospitalizations: 149 (down 67% from peak on 8/20)
    Alachua County COVID ICU: 40 (down 76% from peak on 8/18)

    Go GATORS!
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  12. gators81

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    Didn’t catch that. Read the chart and assumed it was real time data like the rest of the charts/graphs. Kind of pointless to leave that up at this stage, too much has changed. Deleted my post as the conclusion was drawn from out dated data.
     
  13. tilly

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    Yeah. I actually caught that a few months back when looking at nursing home data. I was like "why even have that posted".
    If I were the PR team at UF I would be pressuring the NYT to pull that down.

    Deleted my response too btw.
     
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  15. WESGATORS

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    This graph charts the date of reported death vs. the date of actual death (for FL):

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    Really makes you wonder why people are still whining about masks.
     
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    Because their brainwashing outlets, aka Fox News, are beating this drum hard.
     
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  19. BigCypressGator1981

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    715 melted down for like 6 pages about “draconian covid protocols” infringing upon his freedom and he isn’t within 4 states distance from any sort of mask mandate.

    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  20. tilly

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    Well it should be noted that while states are more hesitent for political reasons I assume, counties are now the ones doing it. Several NC counties do.

    I think we are at roughly 1/4th or our population is under a full mask mandate right now. Durham. Charlotte, Wilmington etc all have full mask mandates for the public. Raleigh has a partial mandate. This was at the behest of the Governor. He doesn't want the political fallout so he just took a back door.

    There are a lot of us in this state back under the same mask mandate as we had when the state ordered it in 2020.
     
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