Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

It's not about telling people to not get vaccinated. Its to get the vaccine to others who haven't been vaccinated or infected yet. Basically we wasted a lot of the vaccine that could've saved countless lives. And it's not Monday morning Quarterbacking. I brought this up in Dec/Jan. We had data in late 2020 saying this. Still doesn't mean that adults who haven't been infected shouldn't get the vaccine. I assume most on here can walk and chew gum at the same time, but you know what they say about those who assume...

 

This is exactly why the debate about vax immunity vs natural immunity is mostly pointless, except perhaps to decide whether a vax is worth getting after getting sick. I certainly would. Can't hurt.

 

Not at all. It should be shaping policy. For example, if your company says you have to be vaccinated to be employed, then it makes sense to offer if you can produce evidence of having had covid then that is even better than being vaccinated and should be acceptable to said company. Hardly anyone is talking about it.

 

I'm not sure anyone who's had it is still alive.

 

That makes some sense. I guess the question is what constitutes proof that you had it? I'd support that, but that is up to the employer. I don't think the government should mandate that evidence of an infection must be accepted by an employer

 

Yeah, tough to find those 99% out there...

 

Well, when you feel that you cannot give the level of care that is needed then it starts to weigh on your conscious. Since I'm not in there every day with them I don't dare cast judgement. I am not strong enough to handle what they are going through.

 

Why? It's been shown to be vastly superior to vaccination only. It's not even close. See, that's why I'm bringing it. In fact, that should be the number 1 factor to be accepted by an employer.

 

Is part of the problem short staffing? I've seen some low vaccination rates at some big systems. A week ago, ORMC had only 38 percent of their staff fully vaccinated. Advent Health of Tampa had only 33%.

 

In your research, how long does this vastly superior last? Everything I've seen indicates only 90 days.

 

Why, perhaps it helps add a little more immunity, or a little longer, or perhaps it helps against future variants.

 

That is exactly the problem. I don't know if the issue is due to requiring vaccinations.

 

Given the hardship they have endured it still blows my mind how some nurses are still anti vax.

 

Yeah that's the thing. I've heard different things on this since the beginning. When I see numbers of one being better than the other I have no idea what the parameters are around that, nor whether those parameters will hold true for the future.

 

My sister has been on a personal crusade to convince them all to get vaxxed. She has convinced quite a few so far. It's insane.

 

Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but no infection parties, please

"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated. "

 

I posted the Israel study. Go read it.

 

I posted the Israel study. It was a large study. Go look it up.

 

I did too. It said natural immunity plus one shot > natural immunity.

 

My sister in law is 6 months past her bout. Antibody test last week showed very strong response. (She is not an anti-vaxer btw)