Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I have a friend who is an er nurse. She goes on facebook after a 12 hour shift and begs her friends to get vaccinated. I took my idiot 21 year old son to the ER and she was doing triage. She was sweet and considerate to him but she scared my son who is getting vaccinated as soon as he is covid clear.

 

At some point coming into work sick became a bad thing. I remember when I was young and would come into the office I would get atta boys but not handshakes. Now if a kid came into my office sick I would say go home work remotely, get better and get back to the office.

 

How can you not see the annoyance? If everybody who could take the vax had been vaccinated, this would be over and some of our loved ones who could not be vaccinated might still be with us.

 

how am I changing what I said? I said kids will get Covid, but the vast majority will get it at home. Asymptotic kids aren’t huge spreaders. That’s been proven. Not sure your end goal here. Is it to kee schools closed? To make kids where there is almost zero proof of masks working in schools? Is it because the media is trying to say delta is making children’s hospitalizations are going up? Hospitals are seeing a rise in children being hospitalized for RSV for the most part, not Covid. The UK data shes schools weren’t a spreading event. Also, UK doesn’t mask kids under 12. I guess they and most of the rest of Europe don’t follow the “science”…

 

Now that we are open everywhere, Kids are spreading it to their parents today. I know too many people here who sent their kids to camps etc this summer, the kids hit sick and their parents then got sick. By the time the data catches up to empirical observation, you already have community spread. Schools being closed really noted this before, but openness and Delta have changed this. We need to be clear in Florida: our policy is to encourage vaccines to minimize spread and severity and to stay open, accept the spread that happens, treat the ill, and accept that those who don’t get vaccinated will get sick or sicker and Some will die at a higher rate than the vaccinated.

 

Read the entire article. Still a very small risk and smaller than the risk from the disease.

 

FDA is expected to grant full and final approval to the Phizer vaccine on Monday. Links all over which I presume everyone has seen so I will resort to the humor of the excellent New York Times Pitchbot.

 

Yeah it is really weird.

 

Being that he is apparently “VERY overweight”…I would say they probably should have taken it. But not sure what that has to do with his current situation. I guess you are making the assumption that the vaccine would have absolutely kept him from getting the virus and or lessened his symptoms. That is just conjecture.

He made a risk benefit decision for himself. Unfortunately it sounds like he was misinformed if he truly was a “COVID denier”.

There are plenty of people navigating this virus the best they can vaccinated and unvaccinated. Most unvaccinated are not Covid deniers. It is unfortunate that some do not see how real the virus is. Hopefully this person sees the reality of the virus and it is not too late for treatments to turn their situation around.

 

It sounds pretty straightforward, but you keep insinuating that this is from far right/conservatives but the black community has a higher unvaccinated rate of any group and that's due to what the government did to black men for 40 years. They still don't trust the government and it's been a slow progression to getting vaccinated. Even the flu shot has just a 12% vaccination rate in the black community. Most of that 12% comes from workplaces that require vaccinations like hospitals. To work at UAB or any university hospital system (even if you never step foot in the hospital), you are required to get a flu vaccine every year or else lose your job.

Then, it's this wishy-washy crap coming out on a weekly basis. One week, it's don't wear a mask, the next wear it, then the next week vaccinated people don't need a mask, then the 4th week it's vaccinated people need to wear their mask. Then, vaccinated may never get sick, now it's maybe we were wrong about that but at least you aren't heading to the hospital in large numbers. Now it's vaccinations may cause a higher incidence of positive tests. All of these things make people nervous. Here's the rub. So I got breakthrough Covid. My wife and son didn't get Covid and they were unvaccinated. Wife slept in the same bed for 4 nights until I got my test and I was symptomatic for all 4 nights. So I had a bad sinus sickness but I got over it in about 10 days. Yet, I'm still positive. The doctor at the clinic told me they just don't much about breakthrough cases. I could be positive for weeks or months. Yet, they just don't know if I'm contagious. Yet 20 or so people I know who got Covid without vaccinations were negative by day 12, 24 to 48 hours after their symptoms started to subside. I never had a fever, just severe congestion and a cough. Yet, by day 14, I'm still positive. Yet, my work requires me to come in on Monday because they go by the CDC protocols and the CDC says I'm ok. We'll see, won't we.

 

12% of Americans think the world is flat.

 

Vaccine hesitancy among blacks is more understandable than politically driven anti-vaxxing that happened largely on the right. If govt doesn't work for white pubs it's because their pols have succeeded in making it the enemy, having created a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Anyway, how are you feeling?

 

How is that "pure conjecture?" It's not. It's a probability based on current evidence. There is a difference.

 

Yes.
People will choose whatever they feels the best for them regardless of how people try to shame them
I haven't done either

 

Honestly, makes me sad. We can be doing so much better as a nation but wow are there forces working against it.

I have a bunch in my fam (sister/her fam, father) who are anti-vaxx. My pops was hesitant, became stubbornly against it. Can't reason w/him.

In related news, 60th NYPD officer to die from covid, which was the leading killer of police in 2020.

 

Delta is more contagious. And that includes children under 12. Also why pediatric hospitalizations have peaked. More kids in hospitals today with COVID than ever before.

The numbers aren't huge, but they are troubling. Especially if it's your kid in the hospital. And these infections were highly preventable. But not enough people got vaxxed to slow the spread.

 

Nice response Q. A laugh emoji. Totally incapable of using or refuting logic.

 

Yeah it is really weird. People would rather take a medicine, not approved at all for this use, with minimal but known side effects, especially if overdosed, even in animal form, and take it all the time, when the data is mixed at best, than to take a vaccine which has fda EUA and pending full approval, and with probably near a billion doses administered.