Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

As we didn't know how long the antibodies would last nobody should have said it.

Most vaccine studies are done over years to evaluate how long antibodies stick around, that's why Polio has 4 shots, HepC has 3.
It's not a fault to not know something that could not be known.

This criticism is silly, fools make it out like it's some big plan, I don't trust anyone but there is a difference between what can be known and what can't be known man.

 

Hasn't changed as of yesterday. The vast majority are still UNVACCINATED. Good Job bravo. bravo, Better luck next time buddy!! LMAO

According to Lt. Gov. Josh Green, there are 339 people hospitalized, 36 of whom have either been partially or fully vaccinated.

Hawaii reports 647 COVID cases; 2 additional fatalities

 

So, nothing has changed from the month old article, huh? A month ago only 3 out of 90+ hospitalized were vaccinated. Now it's up to 12%. You keep thinking everything is great. The rest of us will live in the real world.

 

The potential for the need for boosters was always there. Again, why have spots for four shots on the vaccine card when only two doses of the vaccine were needed for initial full vaccination? And it was impossible to know how long and how well the vaccine immunity would maintain over time, because you need time to run the experiments and gather the data. We could predict efficacy, but until sufficient time had passed to gather the results, it would only be a best guess. And actual data is always more accurate than best guesses.

Initial data from the vaccine trials showed a 95% efficacy rate against the wild type of COVID-19. It didn't and couldn't test against delta, because delta didn't exist during the original vaccine trials! Still, the vaccine is effective at stopping the majority of vaccinated from getting a breakthrough case. The NY Times article said about 20% of cases are breakthroughs here in the US, and that's with a vaccinated population percentage of close to 60%. The vaccine still does a very good job at preventing hospitalizations and deaths.

And while natural immunity may be better, it comes with some potential, nasty issues. And that's you must get infected with COVID and recover before you get natural immunity. And just look at all the unvaccinated in the hospitals right now. One way or another, when they leave the hospital, they will have immunity. Those that recover will have natural immunity, and the 1000+ a day that are now dying in this country will be dead, and won't have to worry anymore about ever getting sick.

 

Damn, brutal.

 

I do not often side with @gator95 , this time there is something to what he has posted here. I just watched the interview with the Director of Johns Hopkins Public Health group and even she was saying that there is not really compelling data yet for a 3rd shot. There may be data coming, but we are not there yet.

Also, no one has said boo about the safety of goosing our immune systems again. I know for a fact that those suffering from Hashimoto syndrome have reacted poorly to both shots of mRNA. It took nearly 6 weeks for my mother's thyroid numbers to come back into line. She nearly passed out driving to Publix and had to let my sister take the wheel before doctors understood what was happening to her post vaccination.

Additionally, given what we are seeing out of people who have recovered from Covid-19, and then were vaccinated, appearing to demonstrate a superior resistance to infection and disease development, I wonder if we should not be considering giving all of the vaccinated people a "boost" from one of the inactivated virus vaccines, either the one from Bharat BioSciences of India or the Sinopharm or Sinovac shots.

I truly wonder if anyone has stopped and thought out whether or not it makes sense, other than to bottom lines, jabbing people twice a year with the same vaccine over and over??

 

What is the reason for the hold up on the Bharat vaccine? Isn't that the one that is reportedly kid safe as well?

 

Keeping making false claims and I will keep debunking them, Again good job trying to weasel your way out of this one.

 

Unfortunately no one has those answers currently. We need data. Same with vaccinating kids. I would wait a bit to get that 3rd shot to see how people react to it, since I got vaccinated in April of this year, i have some time to observe everyone else for a few months. Seems like we are throwing darts at a board.

Let's look at hospitalizations. We know the CDC has the data of who is in the hospital With covid and from covid. We need that data disseminated to everyone. All I want is the data, good or bad. Just release the info.

 

You were the one who made the brilliant claim that hospitalizations of vaccinated people in Hawaii didn't increase from a month ago. I guess math isn't your strong suit.

 

While admittedly I wasn't there and have zero details of this specific event. i will say after working in the ER for almost 2 decades I have seen all sorts of things people do in an effort to get seen faster.....

Years ago we had a surge of young people coming by ambulance for minor issues because they thought they would get seen faster, we put a halt to it but clearing them to to go the lobby and get checked through the normal process.
They were called "Drama Alerts" as opposed to Trauma alerts.

 

Yeah, this was my first thought also.

I was doing triage in the ER once and a 20 something kid came in complaining of severe nausea/vomiting and headache. Claimed he thought he was having a stroke and needed to see a doctor right away. As you would probably have guessed he was having a well known affliction suffered by many 20 somethings called a "hangover".

 

Covaxin - is in concurrent Phase2/Phase3 trials with expected key readouts in early September for use in children age 2-18. They are only apply for use in India as far as I know, however.

Covax - in addition, in partnership with The Serum Institute, the Novavax synthetic protein molecule based vaccine is supposed to go on line in India as well, at first for those 18 and up, while also in trials for children 2-18.

 

Umm no, You implied that since the article was 30 days old it was irrelevant. I showed the most recent data was still the same showing MAJORITY of those hospitalized were unvaccinated. Nice grasping at straws though. The fact remains. Whether it was 10 months ago or yesterday the majority of those being hospitalized are those that are unvaccinated. This is an undisputed fact.

 

No shortage of dummies.

Man Hospitalized After Taking Livestock Feed Store Ivermectin For COVID

 

It was irrelevant. I showed that. Can't help you out here sport. You got called out. Move on. 3% of vaccinated to 12% vaccinated hospitalized in a month isn't "grasping at straws". You keep up the BS. Some on here believe anything I guess.

 

Nice strawman buddy. The majority hospitalized have been unvaccinated at all times during this pandemic and you just got shown up once again.

 

Kind of the equivalent to drag queens dying from injections of Home Depot silicone.

 

That's as bad as the the women who would come by ambulance for period cramps.