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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. WESGATORS

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  4. NavyGator93

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    I've gone past not having pity for those that didn't vaccinate.

    New COVID infections hit six-month high

    Walensky added that over 80 percent of the counties with the highest rate of disease have the least amount of vaccination.

    Florida and Louisiana in particular have emerged as epicenters of infection, with each setting new seven-day records of infections as hospitals fill up.

    As of Sunday, Florida was averaging over 19,000 cases a day, with nearly 14,000 hospitalized patients. Louisiana reported more than 12,000 new confirmed cases over the weekend, bringing the total number of cases over the past week to an all-time high of more than 28,000.
     
  5. Gatorrick22

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    In Britten 45% of hospitalized patients for Covid-18 are one-time vaccinated people, 35% are twice vaccinated.
     
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  6. ncargat1

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    This is the same non-trial that was published earlier in this thread. Meta-analyses are of very limited value in understanding what is going on.

    What were the backgrounds of the patients?
    Where were they from?
    What were their medical backgrounds, including liklihood dealing with parasitic infections or other ailments?
    Etc, etc, etc.....

    Again, if someone ever completes a larger scale, double blind, placebo controlled study of Ivermectin's efficacy we might actually have something.

    Unitl then, I still chuckle that the side effects of this drug, especially when the dose is not optimized are far more dangerous than those observed in the mRNA vaccines......but the anti-vaxxers love to ignore side-effects of their "cheap cures" and only worry about vaccines for some reason.

    Ever wonder why Merck is not pursuing this with full gusto if they could potentially sell billions of doses year after year? (Hint: this stuff has a nasty habit of killing dogs and horses.....but rarely do people sue for that since vets say "the parasites were too far along and Sparky or Mr. Ed were going to die anyway"). Much like Hydroxychloroquine, this stuff can be dangerous, but some people are handing out these pills like skittles!!
     
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  7. docspor

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    wha?
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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  9. rivergator

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    Can you post a link? Thanks
     
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  10. duchen

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    C’mon man! There is always a cheap cure that medical science is ignoring so it can charge more money to hospitalize people. And that makes more sense than free vaccinations that reduce the risk of illness or severe disease.
     
  11. VAg8r1

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    Here's an excerpt for a link correcting the original inaccurate data.
    CLAIM

    “60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 in England have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine”
    VERDICT: Inaccurate

    SOURCE: Anonymous, Disclose.tv, 19 Jul. 2021
    DETAILS
    Factually inaccurate: A declaration on 19 July 2021 by the U.K. Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallance, stated that 60% of hospitalized people for COVID-19 are unvaccinated, not vaccinated.
    Lack of context: While Vallance did initially state that 60% of hospitalized patients were vaccinated, he later corrected himself, saying that he was referring to unvaccinated patients instead. Several social media posts failed to correct their content to reflect Vallance’s correction, or persisted in repeating Vallance’s inaccurate statement even after he had corrected it, misleading users into believing that the COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective.
    The majority of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.K. are among unvaccinated people

    Inaccurate data spreads about COVID hospitalizations in the UK

    Once again, in the US fully vaccinated individuals are extremely unlikely to become infected with a serious case of Covid-19 requiring hospitalization.
    About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows
     
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  12. WESGATORS

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    Addressing Dr. Daniel Stock’s Claims — Deplatform Disease

    Counterpoint.

    From that same site, an interesting take on vaccine-acquired immunity vs. disease-acquired immunity (in reality, we should be inundated with real-time data of known reinfections and severity vs. vaccinated infections and severity, but that's just not the world that we live in). Anyway, I thought it was an interesting take:

    COVID-19 Vaccine-Acquired vs. Disease-Acquired Immunity: Which is Better? — Deplatform Disease

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
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  13. NavyGator93

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    I have no idea what the hell he is trying to say.
     
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    Is this stated with no link because you're embarrassed to use facebook/twitter as your source?
     
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  15. PITBOSS

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    Nuts how our Covid Cases are spiking. Fla is just behind middle for all states on vaxxes. but top for Covid cases per capita.

    Maybe first waves were less contagious -but no vaccines and transmissions were dependent on being in proximity of someone infected for longer period. Casual infections were less likely and masks not as important in public.

    Now, delta variant is very contagious and get it from casual contact. masks, distancing, etc more helpful this time but folks aren’t as careful. You can see that in publix, etc.

    And our awful leadership make matters worse. I still don’t get why it’s such a sacrifice to wear a mask and Encourage socially distancing.
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    This is weird. I bow to no one in blaming our leadership, but it's not like he's the only one. Why is Florida so far ahead of all others?

     
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  17. gatorpa

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    Samples are sent for viral cultures, similar to when we do bacterial cultures.
     
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    I could not find the exact link/article but I found this one that makes a good point that these vaccines are not as good as the government makes them out to be. Ans as expected, the elderly and the previously ill/sick people suffered the most once they got Covid-19.

    So here are two different articles on Covid -19. Like I said I cannot find the exact article at this point in time, but I will find it and post it here for you.

    Almost half of UK COVID infections are in people who are at least partly vaccinated, study suggests. But the cases were much milder.

    Some Vaccinated People Are Dying of Covid-19. Here's Why Scientists Aren't Surprised.
     
  19. gatordavisl

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    It's been posted three times now and yet hasn't lost that element of disgraceful misinformation.
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. OklahomaGator

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    Those articles don't support what you are saying. Here is a quote from the second article:

    “I think it shows the vaccines are working,” Dr. Wingfield said
     
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