Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

So, why do vaccinated people get sick and have symptoms, then? is it just an immune response to the infection and then the deactivated protein?

And, who said this and did the study?

BTW: we know the vaccines are working because the hospitalized demographic is different than before.

Maybe this explains it at a micro level?

 

Thanks. The other posters here with research/science backgrounds have given up. He does not understand data, statistics, limitations on studies, what studies mean, how studies are interpreted in relation to other studies. And, he does not want to understand.

Eventually, his discussion will devolve into name calling.

 

glad to have another poster with a research science understanding on board.

 

They all did better than the US despite having higher population densities.

 

Sure, you keep thinking I didn’t read the study. I guess this part of the study doesn’t mean anything…

“Some children who tested negative for SARS-CoV-2 also had persistent and burdensome illness.”

“Few children (15 children, 0·9%) in the negatively tested cohort had symptoms for at least 28 days; however, these children experienced greater symptom burden throughout their illness (9 symptoms, IQR 7·7–11·0 vs 8, 6–9) and after day 28 (5 symptoms, IQR 1·5–6·5 vs 2, 1–4) than did children who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2”

Oops. LOL

 

Nope.

 

All you've done is made a fool out of yourself. The Danish mask study doesn't address the question of whether masks protect the people around the mask wearer. Do you even understand that?

 

They all did better on cases and 2 or the 3 did better on deaths.

 

You obviously don’t understand. Just like you didn’t understand why lockdowns are bad and school closures was bad. Dude, I get it. Being wrong for most of the past 12 months will wear on you. But just own up to it. Say you were wrong and I’ll move on. Otherwise I’ll keep hammering you on this.

 

So you were wrong. Thanks for admitting it.

 

Yeah, you got me. I'm quite certain you are actually an 8th grade boy. At least I hope you are because it would be really sad if you never grew out of that phase.

 

I have my popcorn in hand....

 

BRO, it says there right in the study under findings “ (4·4%) of 1734 children had illness duration of at least 28 days, more commonly in older than younger children”

Yet you just claimed that there is NO long COVID in children. Are you confused?

 

Nope. Just a bit older. Lemmings gonna lemming

 

There are more kids that didn’t have Covid that have the same symptoms as the “long Covid” kids. So I guess everyone has long Covid now. You got me. I’m wrong…

I mean if I have to explain that kids who didn’t have Covid have more “long covid” like symptoms than kids with Covid then yes, there isn’t long covid. It’s most likely psychological. You go back to breaking down that study sport. I’ll be here getting eviscerated LOL. Good one. Needed a laugh tonight.

 

Any person with a build like this guy's that comes to the hospital with Covid goes right to the top of the "worry list" no matter how little oxygen they may require when they walk in the door. A lot of these kinds of people go from 2 LPM to 60 LPM in a hurry. I've seen it happen in less than a day. I had one guy go from me admitting him as a walkie/talkie on 2 LPM to dead in 4 days.

I post these things not as scare tactics but to provide insight on what can really happen. Luckily the vast majority of people go home. But there is a large enough number of those who don't or suffer lasting consequences for me to say that anyone not getting the vaccine is needlessly playing a game of Russian roulette with their health. I checked in a lady on Wednesday who was hyperventilating and crying because she was so upset and mad at herself for not getting vaccinated. Don't be that lady.

 

Here's an article discussing The Lancet long haul study and potential issues with the results. It's already been mentioned, but the number of kids the study that were considered COVID positive were limited. The study is also "citizen science," and relied on parents to self report. And as a result, the results were disproportionately upper middle to upper class kids. Not necessarily a good representation, and could cause the data to be unreliable.

 

Thanks. I do appreciate your first hand reports.

 

Yeah, you have to be extremely careful in what you can draw from a single observational study relying on self-reporting. Not all that different than the Danish Mask Study. Bottom line is hold the findings lightly and don't make the mistake of offering it as absolute proof.

 

Nothing but a bunch of strawman fallacies from you. You made a false claim. NO LONG COVID in kids. Whether that number is .09% or 4.4% the point is moot. Long COVID in kids is real and the study you rely on is severely flawed.

There is plenty of literature out there that Long COVID in kids exists. The question is how prevalent it really is.

Long-term Symptoms After SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Children and Adolescents
http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/apa.15870
DEFINE_ME
http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/apa.15673