Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Reinfection rate is dependent on the variant of COVID strain. Same variant or similar one, then it's likely your immune system will fight it off easily. But other variants are much more likely to reinfect, like the Brazil variant, which infected more than 1 in 6 who already had COVID before.

The study suggests that reinfections with P.1 are more common than researchers had previously thought and confirms the theory that herd immunity through natural infection is impossible, said Ester Sabino, the study’s lead author and associate professor at the Institute of Tropical Medicine at the University of São Paulo School of Medicine.

Sabino’s team examined antibody levels in 240 blood donors who were not vaccinated against covid-19 and gave blood regularly. Of those who had been infected, 16.9% had a subsequent spike in antibody levels, suggesting they were infected again.

The actual number of reinfections were likely higher, but some of the blood samples were not frequent enough to confirm suspected cases, the authors say. For “probable reinfections” the rate was 25.8%, and for “possible reinfections” it was 31.0%.​

 

What? Saying 'belief is for religion' is a shot that would get you banned?

 

Dude, I got to give it to you. You are dying on the that Brazilian variant hill LOL. I’ll go with the studies that I’ve shown that are peer reviewed. Because sorry but I don’t trust much of what comes out of the Brazilian government. But hey, keep playing what/if. It’s your favorite game

 

This is great news. If the trend holds, this could eventually become like Chicken Pox. Something you encourage children to get exposure to when young, and hopefully it helps to protect them through out most of their life, with only a very small percentage of young people becoming re-infected. Thanks for sharing.

 

Agree. That would be great if that’s what happens.

 

Dude, you need to read full studies. Either that, or your reading comprehension capability leaves a lot to be desired. From your own link:

However, the observation ended before SARS-CoV-2 variants began to spread and it unknown how well natural immunity to the wild-type virus will protect against variants.
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Now we know. From my study published in The British Medical Journal, natural immunity is not effective enough to create natural herd immunity against the Brazil variant.

I suggest once again a Community College 100 level microbiology course. Might help you understand mutation, variation, and the biological science you claim to understand, but really don't even have rudimentary knowledge.

 

LOL. Because they state they “may not” help with variants doesn’t mean they don’t. But hey, you were worried about the South African variant, the UK variant and the Indian variant before the Brazilian variant. Yiu keep worrying about variants. Myself and the most of the rest of the US will be living our lives normally and not worrying about vaccinating our kids.

 

I'm living my life too. Just because I actually understand the science of mutation and variants, and the potential danger they possess, doesn't mean I'm hiding at all. I'm vaccinated. My wife is too, and our teen is getting her second dose next week. Younger kid will get the vaccine as soon as he can.

It is the safest, most responsible thing to do. But because of variants, and the fact the virus is raging on 2 continents with not too many people in Brazil nor India vaccinated, we aren't out of the woods yet.

It's estimated it could take two to three months for a vaccine booster to come to market should a variant resistant to the current vaccine arises. If that variant first appears in the US, it could mean local, temporary shut downs. Nobody wants that. I like going out for dinner with my family, which I did last night. If a potential, vaccine resistant variant first appears on a different continent, then hopefully we'll have the time to create and distribute the booster.

It's called science. Microbiology, or more specifically, virology. Mutation that leads to variation happens. Your study didn't look at variants and admitted it was impossible to know if the study would hold true for all variants. My study looked at the Brazil variant, specifically, and proved natural immunity wasn't effective enough to reach herd immunity. That's called science. You can try and understand it, your keep yourself ignorant. Your choice. Normally, I wouldn't care. But in this case, it's public health that effects all of us.

 

been gone 3 months and you two are still fighting?

 

So, if the current mRNA vaccines are effective against every variant that they have been tested against in preventing severe disease. Do you really need booster shots? Also, with limited supply, shouldn't we focus on vaccinating the world the first time before taking away resources to worry about boosters that will be of little to no added benefit?

 

We don't need boosters now because vaccines are potent enough against all current variants. And yes, the push now should be getting the world vaccinated. But with only about 3% of India and 3% of Brazil vaccinated, and the virus running amuck in both places, new variants are a guarantee. Hopefully, there never will be a variant that is vaccine resistant. But we need to be vigilant and ready if and when it happens.

 

LOL. That was made up drivel. But good effort. I guess ones view of living their life is their choice. Staying in the basement double masked worrying about every variant that’s come around isn’t living any life I want to live. You keep thinking the world is ending, most of the US is back to normal.

 

Good news. It never made sense to me that the immune response from the vaccine was stronger than the response from infection. Because it is the immune response that gets a person over the infection. This is consistent with the studies showing that the response to the first mRNA vaccine in previously infected people is more robust than to the second shot in those never infected. And a small rate if reinfection is consistent with the asymptomatic breakthrough cases after the vaccine. And it is consistent with the overall decline in cases, which is outpacing vaccination rates. Lombardi was a good place to test, too. Very encouraging news. I don’t agree with the chicken pox analogy. It is Too early to assume a lifetime immunity. And, we will just have to see about the variants. But one would expect the results to be the same as with the effective vaccines.

 

Made up drivel? You're the expert. I went out with the family last night. Have the receipt if you want. And variants are real too. Nothing made up there. And as more people get sick, the chance for new variants goes up.

Again, if are truly interested in learning the actual science, a micro 101 course from a local CC would help. You know what they say about ignorance.

 

A new COVID-19 was just discovered in Vietnam. Seems to be a hybrid of the UK and India variant, making it more contagious and faster replicating. Further studies on the variant are forthcoming.

Right now, it's way too early to say the danger is over. The COVID storm could dissipate. Or this could be the eye, and all seems peaceful, but the storm is far from over. By all means, enjoy the calm, especially if you're vaccinated. I certainly am. But also understand, the COVID threat is far from over, especially as the virus rages in other countries.

 

Pro tip: just put LOL in your signature. Then you don’t have to type in every post.

 

Cant say I’ve done extensive research, but I do agree that immunity from the natural antibodies has been underestimated. Initially they had claimed 3-6 months, but people who had Covid early on would have been susceptible to reinfection during the summer surge yet weren’t. I had it in December and did some reading then, at that time recorded cases of reinfection world wide were something like 65. Not 6500, not 65,000, but 65. I’m sure there more by now, but back in December it was still a statical anomaly to get it a second time.

We still mainly hear of a sisters third-cousin that read on Facebook that someone they’ve never met has claimed to get it twice. However, documented cases prove appear to prove otherwise.

 

Another monoclonal antibody granted EUA by the FDA this past week. This monoclonal has demonstrated equal efficacy against every known variant, and is in a pair of phase 3 studies to convert from IV to intramuscular administration.

Covid-19: Treatments, Cures, and Vaccines | Page 54 | Swamp Gas Forums

 

No saying religion equates to uneducated is bigotry. Su stituete any other group in that same sentence and you would call it out.

This is a pattern. He knocks the intellect of people of faith all the time. He's done it for years. Dan is a good poster. Heck I like him generally, but on this subject he is carrying a clear prejudice.

If I said white people are educated, while discussing people of color, how would you take it?

 

Good ole Section 230, amirite?