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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. philnotfil

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    Huge props to the medical community and especially the researchers finding treatments for covid. I was looking at the numbers for cases and fatalities in the US over the last 15 months. By the first little bump in cases over the summer, we had the fatality rate to a quarter of what it had been those first few months. And when we got the big surge in the fall, they had it down to a fifth of the fatality rate of those first few months. They saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Yay science!
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    Anyone who was clamoring to get children into covid-infested schools last fall but is now scared of the effects of the covid vaccine on children is PROFOUNDLY stupid.
     
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  3. tilly

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    Covid infested schools? Pretty sure most people on that side supported closures for specific cases. It was the grand scale they were concerned about.
    I can't recall a single post from anyone clamoring to keep a school open during a breakout etc.
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    northern MN
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  5. tilly

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  6. G8trGr8t

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    selfish, foolish, putting others at risk by possibly being the vector where the virus mutates...all fair descriptions unless they have a history of adverse reaction or some other legit reason.

    now if they think the vaccine is going to make them gay or that it is all a plant to insert microchips..then, yeah, they are stupid.
     
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  7. dangolegators

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    My one and only post about it was from July 14 at the peak of the summer spike when FL was hitting 12k cases per day (because of reopening Florida in early June). And I said 'at the level we are currently at'. It was a totally valid take at the time. But Florida shut down again and cases went down. Then reopened and cases increased through the fall to the highest spike around the holidays. Schools being open was a valid issue last fall with both pros and cons. And teachers died because of it. But to act like I was calling for schools to be closed over and over, like 95 portrayed it, is a lie.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    Last fall, some people were clamoring for wholesale school openings regardless of the lack of data proving it was safe. And that’s when covid was really starting to ramp up to its peak.

    Now those same people either won’t get the vaccine themselves or won’t give it to their kids because it’s not safe enough.

    Those people are dumber than a bag of hammers.
     
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  9. gator95

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    Just making up stuff again I see. Man, some people can’t say “my bad, I was wrong.” That is some funny stuff. I do like the poignant “teachers died” CNN type quote from you. Go read the WI and Nc studies and educate yourself because I’m embarrassed for you after what you just wrote.
     
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  10. gator95

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    There was data from Europe. Some ignorant people chose to ignore said data. Can’t help that people choose not to educate themselves.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    The COVID outbreak in India is causing vaccine problems. India is where they manufacture the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, and with so many people with COVID, they have stopped manufacturing and exporting the vaccine. Won't effect us here in the US, as A-Z isn't approved, but it's the vaccine of choice for many developing/poorer countries. As the article states, the lack of a vaccine globally could eventually effect all of us, if it means more people get COVID, which leads to a vaccine resistant variant.

    Will Hall, global policy manager for the Wellcome global health trust, said COVAX's heavy reliance on the Serum Institute left it vulnerable. India's extension of its export ban made it even more crucial for rich countries to share doses via the scheme, he said, "not in six months' time, not in a month's time, but now".

    "We're not going to beat this virus unless we think and act globally," he added. "We all should be concerned about this – the more the virus continues to spread, the greater the risk of it mutating to a stage where our vaccines and treatments no longer work. If that happens we're back to square one." [emphasis added]
    I'm sure @gator95 will find this funny too! How? Beyond my comprehension.
     
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  12. gator95

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    Anyone saying we are back to square one deserves to be laughed at. Good job What/If.
     
  13. dangolegators

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    Your combination of arrogance and ignorance is just sad. Fortunately I don't have to deal with too many folks like you in real life.
     
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  14. gator95

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    What color is the sky in your world? You get called out and then make excuses for why you said schools should be closed LOL. Then you went on some Rachel Maddow type rant. So funny that you got so triggered when called out.
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    You are a liar.
     
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  16. gator95

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    lol. I posted what you wrote yet you still try to deny it and make excuses. Not surprising coming from you.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    You could use a virus mutation/variant primer. This is a good discussion. From the link:

    Now you can and often do end up with different types of viruses circulating in different parts of the world that each would require their own vaccine. That is to say the random mutations that end up making the virus resistant to the immune response humans make are different in one region compared to the other. From a vaccine production standpoint this makes things worse than having one dominant strain everyone is dealing with. If you just have one dominant strain you can make one vaccine for everyone. If you have regional variations in serotypes you have to make lots of different vaccines, or try and make one that works against lots of them. But it does suck when that one dominant strain changes after you’ve already started your mass vaccine campaign.
    Viral mutations happen all the time. It's why we haven't come up with a cure for the common cold, because the rhinoviruses that cause cold mutate too quickly. There is a distinct possibility that we could be back to square one if COVID-19 mutates and creates a widely spread variant that is vaccine resistant. This is serious stuff, and not funny at all. If you have high school age kids, hopefully one has taken biology, and I suggest you read up on virus mutation/variation. A local 100 level Bio course at a Community College might help too. Because if you think it can't happen, you are being as naive as those who though COVID was just another flu.
     
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  18. gator95

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    We heard that the South African variant and then the UK variant. Now the Indian and Brazilian variant. Wake me when one is a threat, as I’m sure you will. You keep up the What/If’ing
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    And you keep your head buried in the sand and telling yourself you are following the science. If I need to wake you up, hopefully it will be before it's too late. And you respond in time. I won't hold my breath.
     
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  20. gator95

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    It’s science LOL. All you are doing is doing what/if’s. We’ve been fed wrong data for a year on Covid child hospitalizations. You kee thinking this is a threat to kids. The vast majority of kids in the US won’t get vaccinated and will be very safe, even from the what/if’s.
     
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