Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

States with more schools open tend to have fewer restrictions as well. Too many confounding factors to just attribute it to schools.

Schools are part of the larger community. The highlighted quote addresses that schools don't increase community transmission significantly.

The language does not support that schools are safer than the community. it depends on general factors of spread, including ventilation, risk factors, general community spread.

 

So the study came out in Jan and it’s still not available in English? IF the study showed what those who tweeted about it was true I’m confident the NYT’s would cover it. I’ll wait until it comes out in English I guess before commenting.

 

Yes it does.

 

Yeah there are many factors. We all agree on that except for 95. But one thing we do know is that the virus is transmitted through in-person contact. So the more in-person contact there is, the more transmission there will be, all else being equal.

 

He is right generally about kids needing to be in school. And not just for learning but also for socialization etc. And that isolation can have negative effects. It is particularly hard on special needs kids who need services. The question is how to do this safely for the kids and adults in schools. And not to downplay the risks of poor environments relative to the virus.

 

That’s the thing, all things aren’t equal. Young children don’t transmit covid like adults. There is your problem. But I’ve told you this repeatedly and you either don’t care or are ignorant.

 

An assumption without data is called an hypothesis. You're right, I don't have the data. But this site does. I don't have the time to do the research and track the strains to see if it supports my specific hypothesis regarding CA and FL. But the fact the site exists in the first place suggests tracking the strains strenuously has merit. Which goes against what you said.

 

so now that new cases are dropping like a rock, most likely from the bad weather leading to nobody getting tested, what are predictions for when the weather turns nice, a rapid jump, a slow move upward, stabilization of current numbers, what?

 

I can’t for the life of me think anyone would support keeping schools closed on an assumption.

 

How about six dead employees in one district from COVID-19 in a few weeks? Or the recommendation that schools should remain closed in areas of high community spread from JAMA and the CDC?

Again, we're talking about the people's lives. Can you be sure the six Tucson District employees weren't infected because schools were open? Would they be alive today if they were closed? Is this the kind of gamble you're willing to take?

 

Millennials kill another tradition: Snow Days. Freaking monsters

 

The problem with this thinking is there is never zero risk in our lives. Should we shut down in person schooling every winter because kids will for sure get the flu and some kids will die? That is terrible that some people died in Tucson. I have no idea of Covid was the reason or not. But I do know there are suicides happening in the US because of schools being shutdown. Perfectly normal kids having break downs.

 

It should at the very least be an interesting study for those who doubt the effectiveness of lockdowns. The weather isn’t government imposed so naturally no one will fight it, but people have been confined to their homes for almost a week now because of severe weather. Even for those who do need to venture out for food, etc, they’re interacting with practically no one.

 

Weather doesn’t explain the south, southwest or west coast cases dropping just as quickly as in the bad weather areas.

 

What other communicable disease in the past 100 years has killed nearly 500,000 Americans in a calendar year? That's about 10 years worth of average flu deaths. COVID-19 is also the third leading cause of death, behind heart disease and cancer, and neither of those are communicable.

There will never be zero risk. But there is reasonable risk. Reasonable risk is following the science, which says in areas of low spread, keep schools open. But in areas of high spread, there's high enough risk that what happened in Tucson may happen again. Is this reasonable risk? Would you go into work knowing 6 employees would get sick and die in the next month?

 

That’s not an entirely accurate statement. You live in Florida, so unless there’s a hurricane it’s business as usual as it relates to weather. Metro Atlanta has had highs in the low 40’s and lows in the low 20’s for pretty much a week and a half straight, if you think people in the south go out when the thermometer hits the low 20’s you’d be incorrect.

These snow storms have started on the west coast and worked their way across the country. Heavy snow fall has obviously been in the Midwest and northeast, but the whole country has absolutely been impacted.

 

Emails show Tyson's sway over Arkansas mayor during COVID surge in plants

They got the mayor on board with saying that the problem was general community spread leading to infections among plant workers, rather than spread at the plants leading to infections in the general community. The CDC found otherwise.

 

How many kids have died of Covid compared to a typical flu year? The flu is more dangerous to children than Covid is. That is a fact. What part of that don't you understand? If you want to follow the science, then get behind opening schools and stop making assumptions. Can't say it any clearer than that.

You and I have no idea if the 6 people died of covid in Tuscon. But making the assumption is what gets people in trouble.

 

Come on man. My cousin lives in Atlanta and his kids high school sports hasn't slowed down because it's in the 40's for a few days. Lets deal in facts and not assumptions.