Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I think with very little knowledge on my part (few articles) I get the nuances of schools from studies. Most illnesses spread through schools super effectively cuz kids suck with hygiene. This particular illness infects kids and adults similarly but affects them differently. Seems likely if you are not coughing from symptoms or have runny noses you are less likely to spread. Also if you are breathing smaller breaths and exhaling smaller there will be less transmission. If schools seriously ramped up there hygiene it makes sense there is less spread.

Now it is more art than science to debate if an assumed smaller transmission rate in schools is enough to return to in person teaching vs the increased risks of kids increasing their interaction rates with individuals and the teacher rate discussion is a valid debate topic to me too.

I am not a scientist so please don’t call me stupid. I have a fragile ego and may cry.

-Citygator, smartest person ever

 

A study from the WHO, done back in Oct, is probably the most comprehensive school COVID-19 study. On my phone, and the study is a PDF, so having linking issues. The study basically says in areas of low transmission, opening schools will have such a low impact, it's negligible. But in areas of high transmission, communities must undergo preventative measures to slow the spread.

Think of it as adding 5% to your speed. At a low velocity, at 5 mph, adding 5% is less than 1 mph, and most won't notice a difference. But at 1,000 mph, you're now adding 50 mph, and you will notice a difference, especially the extra distance traveled over the course of a week.

Studies that show opening schools do not cause any increase in spread all study areas during time of low spread. Other studies, in areas of high spread, have a different outcome. Which means, if you follow the science, and the WHO recommendation, in areas with low spread, keep schools open. In high spread, take preventative measures.

 

Teachers in Maryland and Virginia are eligible to be vaccinated now.

 

The agenda is pretty clear and painfully transparent. He only considers how things impact him and his family. He claims to have lost a family member to suicide, therefor increasing suicide rates, present or not, are the only factor that matters. He has a kid that he wants in school, there for any study that proves no viral spread regardless of wether they actually recorded data or not is the only study that matter. Every hot take is emotional based on what effects him the most and he’s fully committed to manipulating headlines, misinterpreting studies, and flat out lying to make a point.

He’ll, he posted a screenshot of a chart on the adverse redactions to what he claimed was the Covid vaccine which clearly showed the search parameters as 2007-20019 on the bottom. Half the image was conveniently not in the screen shot, and he ignored any questions asked about it.

For a while a tried to have honest discussions, which turned in to I’ll refute it in hopes that someone reading that MIGHT believe his BS can be convinced otherwise, to it’s just not worth it anymore.

 

The first wave peak(4/21-2742) is no longer within the 31 day descending order list


Highest reported Daily New Deaths (Top 31 days)

1. January 12th 2021- 4482 (T)
2. January 20th 2021- 4394 (W)
3. January 21st 2021- 4369 (TH)
4. January 14th 2021- 4143 (TH)
5. January 7th 2021- 4132 (TH)
6. January 6th 2021- 4091 (W)
7. January 13th 2021- 4074 (W)
8. January 8th 2021- 4041 (F)
9. January 22nd 2021- 3917 (F)
10. December 30th- 3877 (W)
11. January 15th 2021- 3832 (F)
12. January 5th 2021- 3771 (T)
13. December 29th- 3710 (T)
14. December 16th- 3614 (W)
15. December 31st- 3588 TH)
16. January 16th 2021- 3484 (S)
17. December 17th- 3463 (TH)
18. January 23rd 2021- 3427 (S)
19. December 23rd- 3405 (W)
20. December 22nd- 3378 (T)
21. December 9th - 3264 (W)
22. January 9th 2021- 3253 (S)
23. December 10th - 3096 (TH)
24. December 15th - 3057 (T)
25. December 11th - 3034 (F)
26. December 8th- 2978 (T)
27. December 3rd - 2924 (TH)
28. December 24th- 2896 (TH)
29. December 2nd - 2872 (W)
30. December 18th- 2845 (F)
31. January 19th- 2810 (T)

Heart Disease- approx 1800/day
Cancer- approx 1650/day
Covid 19- 1500/day (projected- 3/2020 - 3/2021)
Suicide- approx 140/day

 

On Friday, 1/22, the CDC released data on the Moderna vaccine. With 4.1 million doses in people, there have been 10 severe reactions, 5 of which required hospitalization, none died and all quickly recovered.

Pfizer data to be released soon.

 

But other than that, he pretty much nailed it

 

I like the “claims” part. Very sincere. My kids are doing in person learning since August so it’s not me complaining for my family. Good try though. Stopped reading after that since you obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

 

Surge of Student Suicides Pushes Las Vegas Schools to Reopen

Once a month or so the NYT’s does some real journalism.

Suicide is a terrible thing and hopefully these kids get the help they need.

 

Why should anyone respect you or your stances/theories/arguments? I’m more than open to other view points which is why I continue to read your posts. You unfortunately don’t understand the bulk of what you post and refuse to acknowledge anyone else’s opinion. That’s a really bad combination. Feel free to “not read” anything else I post moving forward. Wouldnt hurt my feelings one bit.

 

Michael Osterholm was interviewed this morning, claiming that we haven't yet seen the worst. He suggests that the new strain will ravage the populace, due to its higher rate of infection and the fact that only about 30% have either had Covid or received the vaccine.

 

Scary if remotely true

 

Try re-reading what I typed. Then think about what you wrote. I said I stopped reading after you mentioned wanting my kids in school.

 

QFT. Ignore is your friend

 

There, fixed it for ya snowflake. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. The rest remains as stated, have a great day and thanks for reading my posts.

 

Yeah this was the funniest one. And when he figured it out after I questioned it he just deleted his post and didn't respond to my post.

 

Good try, explained myself later in a post. Good grief, the reading comprehension of some on here are severely lacking.

 

If you explained why the date range was outside of the virus and vaccines existence, yet you still had data, I must’ve missed it.

 

That raging conservative Nate Silver saying what most normal people are saying.

 

The COVID recession may kill more Americans than the COVID virus will

From a few weeks ago, but this is what many have been arguing for a long time. We know who this virus targets, it’s not rocket science. The poor and minorities will be put under a much larger burden going forward.


“Their main finding: Over the next 20 years, 1.37 million more people will die than would have died without the unemployment shock the pandemic caused, a number the researchers call “staggering.” They find also that “excess deaths will disproportionately affect African-Americans.” The implied increases in deaths per 100,000 individuals over the next 20 years are 32.6 for African-Americans versus 24.6 for white Americans. In all, about 3.2% more people would die in the U.S. over that span than would have died without the spike in joblessness.”