Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Harris/biden, masks for 100 days!
Harris/biden quietly lower the pcr cycle testing threshhold to actually identify a real case of rona.
Cases go waaay down.
Masks must become the new normal.
Harris/biden are awesomely awesome!
Easy peasy. See it coming from a mile away.

 

Everyone is already wearing a mask. They just don’t work.

“The Delphi group at Carnegie Mellon University has developed a very informative, consistently updated mask compliance tracker. It shows that the overwhelming majority of Americans across the nation are wearing masks. And in virtually every major population center in the United States, especially in areas where COVID-19 cases are rising, mask compliance levels are off the charts high, with most major metro areas registering well over 90 percent compliance.”


Shocking...

 

pitboss said it best.

 

Even at high rates over 90%, that still can leave a sizable population who aren't wearing masks or wearing them correctly. And perhaps among this population and the broader population, they might be violating other mitigation measures as well. And if so, specific types of human behaviors, e.g. violating multiple mitigation measures is responsible for the spike.

In other words, it could be that many if not most of the cases involved in the spikes we are seeing have to do with specific situations.

On the flip side, it could be that masks in conjunction with other mitigation measures are actually suppressing the spike such that the situation might be worse without these mitigation measures as opposed to these measures failing.

 

Masks don’t work. That’s been proven. Why is everyone fighting it? Cities at 97% usage still spiking proves it.

 

Trolls are notoriously hungry.

 

I really don't care that you give me come on mans, but I would suggest for you to open your mind a bit. You immediately see high rates of mask wearing and then assume a correlation to high rates of covid. What I'm offering are questions that must be answered to make any determination of correlation, before even being able to make a causal determination. But after all these months you have yet to be able to grasp these simple realities and it's clear when you make declarative but faulty statements about their not working.

 

Can you explain to us how they determined a city had 97% mask compliance? I’m betting you can’t...

 

Simple. He quoted an ex Breitbart “journalist” who used data taken from a survey of Facebook users.
I was foolish enough to click on his sources. That was stupid.

 

Read the link. It’s in there. I’m betting you didn’t read it...

 

So nothing to refute it, just the “mask work it’s science” crowd. Coronabros gonna Coronabro.

 

I read it. It’s not. That’s why I’d like you to explain it to me. How did they arrive at that number. What’s their method?

 

I was thinking the same thing. I didn't know for sure but I assumed it was based on a self-report survey It took a bit of digging to find out. Delphi is panel surveying people. They're on the 5th wave right now. They ask respondents the following two mask-related questions:

C14 In the past 5 days, how often did you wear a mask when in public?
o All the time (1)
o Most of the time (2)
o Some of the time (3)
o A little of the time (4)
o None of the time (5)
o I have not been in public during the past 5 days (6)

C13a During which activities in the past 24 hours did you wear a mask? Please select all that apply.
▢ Gone to work or school outside the place where you are currently staying (1)
▢ Gone to a market, grocery store, or pharmacy (2)
▢ Gone to a bar, restaurant, or cafe (3)
▢ Spent time with someone who isn't currently staying with you (4)
▢ Attended an event with more than 10 people (5)
▢ Used public transit (6)
▢ ⊗None of the above (7)

 

It is in there. Can’t help you if you won’t read.

 

As much as I appreciate the explanation I really wanted 95 to explain it, because, well, he can’t. So a survey of Facebook users, who thinks people that refuse to wear masks in a pandemic are going to take the time to fill out a Facebook survey about wearing a mask. Of course the percentage is nearly 100. Non mask wearers showed the survey the same respect they show the mask by not reporting, short of a few who take pride in not wearing the mask.

 

Setting aside the issue of entirely relying on self-reports of Pro-Social behavior (especially on Facebook, which is filled with Pro-Social signaling), I find it strange that he doesn't report the correlation between mask wearing and the spread metrics available from the CMU group. Could it be that is because there is a negative correlation (i.e., higher mask wearing is correlated with lower spread)? I'll preview the results: yes, that correlation is negative.

 

I’m fairly confident I read the articles you post more thoroughly than you do.

 

I know you did and I know he cannot.

There are numerous questions and data that would be needed to even draw any correlation that rules out spuriousness. He either doesn't seem to understand this or willfully refuses to consider it. Easier to take superficial impressions and call it a day.

 

“I don’t like the facts so I’ll just say I don’t believe it” is such a 81 way of thinking. I think it’s so funny. This person is such a mask guy he will die on mask hill.