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Cormani McClain's decision

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by malscott, Oct 27, 2022.

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  1. Wanne15

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    That’s what I’m hoping for. You’d think, barring a Trask type situation, that Kitna and Miller aren’t all that or they would have played some already. It would be nice to have a rs freshman playing well with some eligibility.
     
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  2. Crusher

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    You didn't see Miller in the Spring game? He definitely isn't "all that."
     
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  3. lizardbreath

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    I seem to recall one of the recruiting bloggers expressing the opinion that Brown was seriously underrated and pretty much scratching his head about why that might be. I believe he speculated that it might have something to do with not playing against great competition or not going through progressions too well at this point in his development. I honestly don't know enough to make those kinds of assessments, particularly based on some pretty limited highlights film. But I do know what a well-thrown ball looks like and this kid can really fling it. He's not exactly a statue either.
     
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  4. MCB51

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    Spring games do not show me much...and he had just got here..probably wasn't working with the #1s either..
     
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  5. Gatorhead

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    I always admired SOS changing the QB when our QB was struggling with a bad performance. Every once in a while a different QB may add a spark.

    I'm not sure why doing that would be that big an issue on a 4 - 4 team.
     
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  6. Wanne15

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    He didn’t appear to be but he’s also new in the system playing with the twos against the ones
     
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    You guys still going?
     
  8. Wanne15

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    The NFL teams obviously don’t understand it either because they draft crappy quarterbacks in the first round every year. Quarterbacks are hard to read I guess
     
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    Again, I'm no expert, but Brown absolutely looks like the better natural passer of the two to me. Incidentally, Max was around 6'2", 200 lb. as a HS Sr, so a RS and a year-plus at an actual training table should put a little quality weight on him before spring practice rolls around next year. If AR does indeed bolt to the NFL, I see a pretty good chance that Kitna (whom I totally overlooked) will beat out Miller, and Brown could well emerge as the no.2. Stokes, frankly, doesn't look like he's anywhere near ready based on his play this season. This is all probably moot though, due to the fact that AR just isn't NFL ready at this point - IMHO.
     
  10. lizardbreath

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    What's it to ya, Mac?:p
     
  11. MarineG8R

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    Nothing. Just a little odd.
     
  12. lizardbreath

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    Uh, OK.
     
  13. tegator80

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    As I posted a couple of times before, Napier has some 'splaining to do. This isn't Louisiana anymore. And this fan base wants to see something akin to seeing a building being built (even though plenty of us want livable double-wides NOW). If what he presents is either Mac/Dumbo arrogance ("trust me, I know what I am doing") or in a few games from now "oops, my bad, Kitna CAN be a very good passer", this fan base isn't going to give him the "Mike White" treatment. Or to a better analogy, UGa and the Mark Richt treatment.

    There are some DAMN WEARY fans out here. And he is being paid well for a building and not excuses or apologies.
     
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  14. Gatorhead

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    I can't argue. CBN's first addition has been nothing to write home about and the fan base has not seen much in the way of creativity.

    The defense is terrible. Special teams are not special and the offense is "blah". Teams can stuff the box, force us to pass and there is your ballgame. AR had big numbers against UT but so what? We lost.

    Im certainly on board with providing CBN time to build the team
    with his roster but given the dissapointing and inconsistent QB play it does not seem unrealistic to try a QB change in some situations to see if a "spark" might be added. UF / UGA was essentially over by early in the 2nd quarter.

    Yes it was nice to see a comeback but that was just saving face, no one thought UGA was in serious trouble and UGA proved that.

    WE play TAMU, yes they are sliding but they played Ole Miss really close. TAMU is superior to UF on both lines IMO and has much greater depth. So it's a toss up between two crummy QB's. We will be VERY FORTUNATE to win that game. I'm just hoping the Jimbo negative mojo will carry the way to a UF victory.
     
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  15. MCB51

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    We don't know what's going on behind the scenes do we..and just maybe coach doesn't want to throw players under the bus..they see these players everyday..we don't...
     
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    Yes...AND Plan A wasn't working at all for most of the game. If anything, and I am not saying IF we put Kitna in we could maybe have won it, it tells QB1 that you need to do at least the minimum or else we WILL go to Plan B. And again, if what he thinks is correct - Kitna cannot handle the pressure well enough against top quality teams - then we go back to AR. As it has been said plenty of times, the bench is the coach's best friend.

    Keep it simple, we were NOT going to win that game unless AR became Superman. And he plainly proved he was not on that day against that team. This isn't tournament golf, where yes, you are making pars when you had birdy opportunities but if you decide to use a long driver on approaches you then make double or triple bogies and your ultimate score WILL suffer, you lose each hole (ie each game) on its own merits. Worse case is, besides a butt hurt AR, a loss that is greater than 22 points. Big whoop.

    From what I have seen, Kitna is NOT Trask 2.0 and so I don't see me screaming for him as I sort of did when Franks was damn mediocre. But c'mon, not one snap in a real game (EWU was NOT a real game)? As I said, there needs to be some 'splaining.
     
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    MC - I think Billy is doing his best with the players he has. I also applaud him for being classy enough to sink or swim with who is in the locker room. Having said that, whats wrong with trying a backup QB for a few series when the offense is stagnate? Especially when SEC East, SEC or Playoff Contention is no longer a concern??
     
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    I'd just like to see AR sit on the sideline for a drive here and there to get a different perspective and get coached up to understand what the defense is doing.
     
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  19. MCB51

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    Maybe..but maybe that explanation you want would hurt the team overall..confidence, locker room for instance
     
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  20. tegator80

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    Neither of us have facts, merely conjecture. I have two really good ones. The first is, players play to win, unless they are certain pros and they play (if they have that luxury) to make a really good living. If they thought that "staying the course" would win them games (UGa and the remaining ones) then that is a dynamic that has to be negotiated. But make no mistake, if any player is messing up their goals by being on the field and someone else who isn't may be a better option, that is mutiny-worthy territory (or at least building a "why should I care anymore" mentality).

    And if we want to believe there are certain favorites and, um, flavors, that many players gravitate to and would be less-than-pleased if they were not the first and only choice, well that means that a group of inmates are running the asylum. Do you see anything in the way Napier as built himself and explained his system that says, "we will win one more game this year by putting up a lean-to instead of pouring the foundation, regardless of the consequences of the structural integrity of that foundation"? Not in the least. Year 1 is a damn ugly hole. It is what it is.

    But my second conjecture, and maybe even more daunting, is the one where this fan base is not going to make provisions towards his needing a lot of seasoning. As bad as this sounds, until further notice, Napier is McElwain. Pretty much the same resume in black and white. And as a result of our past missteps at the HC position, I seriously doubt he is going to get to get away with many missteps, real or imagined. He needs to get to Year 3 before we can truly feel confident about what his building is going to be. Harsin is going to lose his job after his second year and could have easily lost it after his first. This is DAMN DANGEROUS territory.
     
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