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Conservative Pre-Half Is Now A Trend?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Matthanuf06, Nov 6, 2022.

  1. Matthanuf06

    Matthanuf06 GC Hall of Fame

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    Again today we went conservative with a minute left in the half with 3 time outs. That is an absolute eternity in college ball to gain 40 yards.

    Weve done this before in a few other games as well. Often giving the other team effectively 2 straightness possessions which they usually score on (killed us vs UT). D stepped up today so it didn’t hurt us

    Has Billy talked about this specifically? Like is it some sort of strategy? It seems incredibly negative value, but it could make sense in a specific game. But at this point it’s happened 3 or 4 times so it’s a trend. Is there an explanation?

    title is meant to be “Conservative Pre Half is Now a Trend”, sorry!
     
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  2. tmape01

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    Conservative Pre is provocative

    Billy hasn’t explained anything.
    Billy is hoping we just don’t ask any questions.

    Keep pushing that Pre
     
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  3. nawlinsgator

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    I also remember a game or two this season where we gambled a little too much and our opponent scored double digits on us right before the half. You damned if you do, you damned if you don’t. I’m just going to enjoy the victory. There’s plenty of other stuff to be critical about.
     
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  4. freedomgator

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    Was that the series where we got the delay on 1st down? Our execution seems to fall apart in those scenarios which I think ends up driving the decisions. Gotta get that fixed.
     
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  5. tripsright

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    Another negative thread.
    Insufferable
     
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  6. GatorChoice

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    I don’t know for sure, but believe we were going to try to score before the delay penalty followed by a failed play that left the clock running. I think at that point, coach just decided to head to the locker room.
     
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  7. gator_glory

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    It was bad and has been poor in a few games. CBN did specifically talk about this in his post-game presser. He said in prior years his teams have “crushed” that part of the game but clearly they struggled today/this year. He had a specific term for their approach but I don’t recall it now. Philosophy is if the 1st or 2nd play pops then they maintain aggression; however, if it does not they try to burn the clock. Regardless, he acknowledged it was lacking and something they need to fix.

    Go Gators!
     
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  8. username

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    I don’t think you know what that word means.
     
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  9. gatornation1173

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    Username you can’t make any type of comments here without people like this just assuming you’re a hater. Some people don’t understand how discussions and differing opinions work
     
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  10. BrianUF5220

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    I disagree on this being overly conservative. TAM had just scored and would get the ball back in the 2nd half. The key is the TAM had all 3 Timeouts left. If you throw one or 2 incomplete passes, the TAM can start calling TOs, force a punt and probably get better field position than we had (20 after penalty) with almost no time gone. I thought in this case, it was the right call. If they have 1 TO, then we should have at least taken 1 shot at a 15/20 yard pass.
     
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  11. gatornation1173

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    Because this poster has a different opinion than yours? We’re to assume you are the expert in knowledge of everything in the universe? Nobody is allowed to question or make comments and use reasoning or allowed to form their own conclusions?
     
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  12. Gatorrick22

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    It might just be a trust issue... not sure and I'm just guessing here, but it seems to me that Napier does not trust our team for who knows what reason... But that seems like the logical answer.
     
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  13. 31g8r

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    Bingo on the trust issue maybe not as widespread as the whole team but definitely the trigger man on offense. We only had 90 yds at halftime on like 10-19 attempts. Yet the original premise was we should press the 1 minute drill from our own 20.

    BN addressed this post game, with additional growth from the position, I believe we will see more aggressive play calling in the future. At what exact point remains to be seen.
     
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  14. GatorLuke

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    He did the right thing. If we had a high scoring, prolific and consistent offense, then he really can’t push the ball. We’re not there yet. Plus we had a delay of game pushing us back to the 20. If AR was able to pick up a big chunk on 1st & 15 you then start to push it. Didn’t happen.
     
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  15. Luemen

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    Did you watch the end of the half?

    1. We had a delay of game after a kick. How that happens is completely unknown.

    2. The first snap that happens, the offense is confused. AR and the rb are doing different plays and chaos ensued for that play.

    At that point mail it in, take it to half and regroup.
     
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  16. TrueGator

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    Napier did talk about the strategy being that if you get across the 50 yard-line, you can get a little more aggressive in the last couple of minutes of the half. Not sure that's a good plan. I get not leaving the opponent a chance to score, but, it seems like we're leaving 3 points on the board every game at the end of the first half. Certainly doesn't jive with the aggressiveness on 4th downs and lack of fair catches on kickoffs inside the 5 yard line.

    But, it is true that there is no excuse for the confusion that occurred leading to the delay of game on first down after a kickoff, or, the blown-up next play execution that followed.
     
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  17. ETGator

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    I changed the thread title for the OP.

    As far as what @gatornation1173 wrote several times . . . remember this is a Florida Gators board.

    Florida Gators are still celebrating the HUGE win yesterday.

    If someone wants to post negativity or join in criticizing something in a HUGE win . . . maybe a turning point for our new head coach and the kids . . . they shouldn't be surprised at getting blow-back from other Gators.

    We have to sit and listen to it every other week.

    There's a time and place for everything. That's my 2-cents worth.
     
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  18. EbSaxman

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    You’re on the wrong side of the fifty, you just took a penalty and a badplay and your opponent has three timeouts. But you want to get aggressive? Bad plan. Burn the clock and regroup in the locker room.
     
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  19. gtr2x

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    I agree after the penalty, but how do you get a delay of game penalty in that situation in the first place. I was wondering if the refs just started the clock too quickly. Just bewildering turn of events.
     
  20. slayerxing

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    My biggest complaint with billy as a play caller has been how he has managed end of half. No sugar coating it it’s been really bad. All season. Legitimately cost Florida big in several games this year. Not always conservative, sometimes aggressive, but always wrong. And it cost him @ut, vs uk, vs lsu vs uga and @tamu
     
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