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Co-President Elon calls for MORE Immigrants ... LOL

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Dec 26, 2024 at 8:59 PM.

  1. BLING

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    I am not against H1-B Visas in general, but that’s definitely an area that’s been abused.

    I have no issues with hiring those workers, but there have also been cases of H1-B1 straight up replacing American counterparts. Pretty sure that isn’t supposed to happen, but I guess it isn’t enforced so companies feel comfortable. Didn’t Disney a few years back do something blatant like have the American workers literally train their H1B1 replacements?

    In a very tight labor market maybe the hires are more additive, rather than just about cost saving/willingness to do more hours. I’m definitely ok with immigrants for additive hires, less so with using them to undercut existing workers or even get around labor rules. I feel the same for unskilled labor as I do skilled. The numbers we allow should align with what is needed (and right now we have a tight labor market).
     
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  2. 92gator

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    LMAO!

    Like the WH hasn't been a 3 ring circus clown show for the last 4 years!

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    ....1st they pulled the head clown from the ticket to try to create some distance from the steaming pile of shit that was Doh! Biden....

    ... then they managed to outclown Crusty with a Pennywise level horror show fiasco that they tried to conceal with a Billon dollar makeover known as sKamala, a clown parade of who's who from celebrityville, and a synchronized chorus from the MSM...

    ...and STILL they got pasted!

    Talkn your shit about clowntown... from Clowntown.

    That's. Rich.
     
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  3. danmanne65

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    Let anyone in who wants in. Give them a green card and social security number on the way in. Tax them make them pay into social security. We will find out how quick the problem is Americans want to get paid to work. Illegals not as much.
     
  4. JustaGator

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    Listen, I don't know if you represent the tech right, brocoin right, the anti-immigrant right, vanilla KKK right, or if you are just an average rural MAGA dope - but Y-O-U elected the 37 felony guy from TV who let a million Americans die on his previous watch (and we never even had a Congressional hearing!) because he didn't believe the experts and stored our country's most valuable secrets in his *bathroom* (You can't make this shit up...also: Denial is not just a river in Egypt apparently - try to explain that away.)

    AND all of that is all before he tried to install alternate electors to steal an election and told a crowd to storm the Capitol and beat up police who later died (and where is THAT Congressional investigation?)

    So get it through your head here and now:

    N-O-T-H-I-N-G
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    A BIGGER FAILURE
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    DONALD TRUMP

    *****EXCEPT******

    THE PEOPLE
    WHO VOTED
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    A-G-A-I-N!

    It's like watching a battered housewife make excuses to the police for how her husband is just so stressed out at work.

    Sadly, one day she will end up dead by that same husband's hands.

    And alas, America, here you are!

    So remember - you broke it - you bought it!

    Now... prepared to be entertained.

    That *IS* why you came to the show after all, right?!?
     
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  5. 92gator

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    Whatever bro. Your clown was still soooooooo shitty, that his appointed successor got pasted by THAT guy--BECAUSE he was that shitty. Lol!

    PS--we're 10 TRILLION DOLLARS deeper in debt since Doh! took office. What did we get for it, besides inflation and porous border that allowed all kinds of gang banger thugs in?
     
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  6. BLING

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    I wouldn’t go that far (or maybe you were being sarcastic), but I’d certainly agree with the premise of making them all pay into the system. Huge % would immediately sign up and be above board if we simply allowed them to. Even if only half of them do, massively increasing work visas drastically narrows the field of so-called “illegals”.
     
  7. danmanne65

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    Well I am not sure how serious I am. Certainly we need to stop terrorists from coming in. I am serious about making people who employ illegals pay for it. Illegal aliens aren’t the issue. Criminal employers are. We either need to jail them or take away the advantage to hiring illegals.
     
  8. BLING

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    Oh I agree. But I think at this point alot of these ag and construction jobs are just about *only* going to illegals.

    Part of that may be because illegals are working for cash or undercutting American workers (not unlike the phenomenon of H1-B1 “legally” replacing American tech workers for less pay and longer hours). It’s hard to know how many Americans would take those labor jobs. If there was an ag worker visa program then they’d at least have to pay into the system and close the gap on whatever “undercutting” is going on.
     
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  9. gator_jo

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    Stop lying.

    The debt is 9 trillion higher, and that includes interest payments and the 2021 Trump budget deficit. The 2021 budget of course was submitted by Trump.

    Do you really think that other people will believe and tolerate these lies just because people like you do?
     
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  10. G8tas

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    Biden added around 15% to the debt. Trump added 40%. I am still waiting to find out why there were crickets from you when Trump was blowing up the debt. Now all of sudden you care?! No one believes you
     
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    I like the way Musk just became a Republican, a year ago, and now presumes to dictate who else gets into the party.
     
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    Small differences in national IQ average lead to different outcomes.

    Higher IQ countries have higher per capita income than lower IQ countries and defeat them in war, all else being roughly equal.

    People with cold country ancestry tend to be smarter than people who arose from warmer areas. Northern Japanese are smarter than Southern Japanese, for example. Northern Russians are smarter than Southern Russians.

    I would guess that Northern Russians are smarter than Ukrainians. Subtract the immigrants from the warmer south and people from Moscow would compare favorably with smarter populations from around the world. Compare outcomes for people living on the northern US border with people living on the southern borders.

    America is being colonized by the lower IQ average 3rd world (thank you Democrats and RINOs). What should we do to mitigate the damage?

    Import super high IQ Brahmin caste people from people from India? (I would guess on average they're 10+ IQ points smarter than Ashkenazi Jews). Problem: Many of them are incredibly corrupt and they would want to control our gov't and dominate and eventually replace. white people. Look at how the Brahmins treat Dalits in high tech companies.
    Trapped in Silicon Valley’s Hidden Caste System

    What's great about superbrains is one or a few of them can invent something like the cellphone that creates lots of jobs for people already here.

    High IQ MAGA solution (possibly)? Let in a select few superbrains (many will be Brahmins) and export lower IQ illegals, especially those with criminal records. This makes the US more competitive, raises the national IQ average and should reduce future deficits. The reduction in population would be good for the environment.

    Elon does seem to think our population could be beneficislly increased by a few hundred million more people . That's wrong and I hope he figures that out. Bad for the environment and our supply of natural resources.

    Going forward what will happen with Elon?
    1) As I said on Twitter in 2021 Musk needs to reform our Healthcare system and big gov't letting Milton Friedman be his guide. Now Musk is reforming our gov't and posting videos and statements from Friedman.

    2) Musk will call for decreasing licensure requirements to help spread income to the middle class and below. He'll figure it out.

    3) Online education will become free with better accreditation

    4) Musk will realize that he needs to form a 3rd political party. All members will pledge to enact the party platform. They will sign a blood oath of allegiance and if they detour from the party platform without permission from Elon they will face execution by the American people (per the blood oath they sign). That's how you get stuff done.

    5) Elon will marry Kai Trump and they will form a monarchy to keep America on the straight path going forward.

    Milton Friedman on l8censure and Healthcare
    duck://player/rWlk9HreE7U
     
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    sounds like global warming is a good thing after all, it will make us smarter
     
  15. WarDamnGator

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    Yeah, Trump added almost twice as much to the debt as Biden ... @92gator deals only in alternative facts ...
     
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  16. citygator

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    This is going to be a great administration for me. My company can hire more HB-1 employees. Tax cuts for the top tier. Reduced corporate income tax. Fewer rules for us. As an offset to all the lost income we are going to cut resources for the working class. The working class did a bang up job taking in that Trojan Horse. They have my thanks.
     
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  17. G8tas

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    MAGA believes Musk cares about making the giver more efficient?! Please tell me you guys are making this up. I promise you none of those efficiency propositions will be ones that will hurt any of his companies
     
  18. CHFG8R

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    Elon wants 400K talent (Indians) for 80K. Period. End of story. This is why big tech loves them.
     
  19. CHFG8R

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    Big difference here. Ag workers are taking jobs most Americans don't want to do and won't do for that price. Elon and his Tech bro buddies just want cheaper talent. There are plenty of American's who can do those jobs and would be willing to do those jobs, but they want to be paid market value and Elon wants to pay them a small fraction of market value.
     
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    Happier than having their boy (Musk) in Trump's ear all day? Dude is completely compromised by the CCP and his own greed.