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Gators improve, but drops to #8 after LSU posts highest score of season at 198.125 to move from #8 to #2.

 

This gets to the heart of subjective NCAA judging whether it gives deference to the higher ranked team or, as in this case, the home team:

"Doesn't look fair to me" - Olivia Dunne's team, LSU Tigers' triumph raises eyebrows over NCAA scoring system (msn.com)

No way is the LSU's performer a 10 from one of the judges. I actually like the UK vault better as she didn't wobble backward when she held her feet on the stick. In either case there wasn't a .5 difference between the vaults.

For subjective judging run amok, get a load of this crapola as reported by College Gym News:

"Tennessee Collegiate Classic Session Two No. 33 Ball State (198.025), No. 44 Kent State (197.725), No. 62 SEMO (197.05), No. 69 UW-Whitewater (194.450)

• VT: Pfister (BSU), 10.000
• UB: Teter (BSU), Middleton (BSU), 10.000
• BB: Webb (SEMO), Knetzke (Whitewater), 9.925
• FX: Franz (Kent State), 10.000
• AA: Middleton (BSU), 39.750
• Records: Ball State – new team all around record (198.025), new team vault record (49.375), new team bars record (49.775), new 4th highest team beam score (49.25), new team floor record (49.625), new individual all around record (39.75 – Zoe Middleton), new 2nd highest individual all around score (39.575 – Megan Teter), new 3rd highest individual all around score (39.45 – Victoria Henry), tied 5th highest individual all around score (39.375 – Hannah Ruthberg), tied individual vault record (10.0 – Suki Pfister), new individual bars record (10.0 – Zoe Middleton), new individual bars record (10.0 – Megan Teter), tied individual floor record (9.95 – Suki Pfister); Kent State – new team all around record (197.725), tied 2nd highest team vault score (49.3), tied team bars record (49.5), tied 4th highest team beam score (49.25), new team floor record (49.675), tied individual floor record (10.0 – Karlie Franz); SEMO – new team all around record (197.05), new team vault record (49.2), new team bars record (49.35), new 4th highest team beam score (49.175), new 3rd highest team floor score (49.325), new individual all around record (39.575 – Lydia Webb), new 3rd highest individual all around score (39.5 – Taylor Ingle), new individual bars record (10.0 – Lindsay Ockler); and UW-Whitewater – new team all around record (194.45), new 3rd highest team vault score (48.4), new 3rd highest team bars score (48.5), new team beam record (48.7), new 3rd highest team floor score (48.85), new individual beam record (9.925 – Sarah Knetzke)"

Without seeing this meet, I already know those scores are tainted. It's as if the MAC is going to get their teams in the NCAAs whether they deserve the inclusion or not.

Subjective inaccurate judging also happens at the NCAA regionals and nationals. After the fact judging by College Gym News in the 2023 finals had both OU and UF as overscored but had UF on top even with Trinity Thomas only competing in two events. OU got the #1 ranked NQS bump. Get enough of the subjective bumps and the higher ranked team wins the event. To beat #1, a team has to be noticeably better than the #1 team. The only thing that should matter is who is better in the meet being judged.

Judges should be judged after meets. Those responsible for inaccurate bump judging should not be ignored. Score meets fairly or get out of the sport.

 

Less difficult routines have lesser starting values. On Vault, a Yurchenko 1 1/2 is a 10 start value and a Yurchenko is a 9.5 start value. The more 10 start values, the better.

Collegiate sports should start with reviewing what is taught in the judges training schools and then move into judging the judges. Something needs to be done to ensure fair meet judging so as to protect the integrity of the collegiate sport.

California had identical high 197's in back-to-back weeks of home and away. That looks like consistency to me.

Oklahoma, Stanford, and UCLA are at Denver today. I can't help thinking the sooners with clean routines are going to score higher than LSU's 198.125 and they aren't even in the same meet together.

See Post 319 Below.

 

Our "friends" over at tiger dropping gymnastics recruiting commented about UF having overscored floor routines at Auburn.

More on LSU Score Gate:

Olivia Dunne's LSU Tigers victory sparks discussion of intentional underscoring (msn.com)

Livi is the face of LSU gymnastics, but the story that the judges did Kentucky wrong with their biased scoring for LSU is accurate. Happy reading.

It's a joke for LSU fan to think UF was overscored at Auburn. LOL!

 

I could have won a lot of $ today if I were a betting man, see bolded in post 315:

Oklahoma crushed Denver, the home team, UCLA, and Stanford. The drum roll for the final OU score..........

Oklahoma 198.325

The score betters LSUs score by .200 and is the highest score of the 2024 season taking over from LSU's 198.125. The judging in collegiate gymnastics is both predictable and disgraceful. The only team that will be allowed to beat OU in 2024 for the national championship is OU. It makes me not want to watch this bs except I do like to watch UF sports.