Classified documents found in Biden’s old office and garage, and other office, and residence

Someone needs to tell Donald picture books don’t count as reading.

 

Here is a hypothetical for you:
Trump took classified documents, refused to return them, then while in negotiation with the national archives to return, the FBI raided his residence at Mar. all within 2 years of him being President.
Biden as VP took classified docs, 2 years after leaving office moves them to a "think tank" paid for by China, stuck them in an office closet for 4 years, all of sudden finds them right before midterms, no one tells the media until after, then they turn back what they claim is all they took.
Everyone on Biden side claims there is nothing to see here and no comparison, even though we have no idea what classified documents either of them had.
Wait..... that's not hypothetical!!!!

 

i am amazed at the libby response to there only being 10 classified documents found, like 10 is ok. i get the feeling if there were 25 or 50 the response would be it's ok, there were not 26 or 51.to me this is like being pregnant, either you are or are not, no such thing as a little pregnant, no such thing as only a small number of documents.as to how they got to where they were found they did not levitate there, someone moved them and should have said " gee, classified documents, should we move these?".and if they were known when moved why 5 or 6 years to suddenly find them, guess good ole joe did not mean it, he is not a dirty, nasty republican.am awaiting all the libby negative responses.

 

What's much more relevant than the number of the documents was the fact they were immediately turned over to the National Archives upon discovery in contrast to the behavior of the former president who openly defied a request from the archives and refused to comply with a subpoena and when he was called out claimed that he was victim of a federal law enforcement agency was that was ensuring that he comply with the law. The thing about us "libbies" is that we prefer to be informed regarding the issues rather than relying on the right-wing media. I would suggest that you click on the link below.
How the Discovery of Classified Files in Biden’s Office Compares With the Trump Case
By the way, some more differences from the article:

Court filings say that 184 documents marked as classified were in the 15 boxes the National Archives initially retrieved from Mar-a-Lago. The Trump team turned over 38 more such records after the subpoena, and the F.B.I. found another 103 in its search. The Biden administration’s statement said a “small number” of documents marked as classified were discovered in the closet at the Penn Biden Center. CBS News has reported there were about 10.

When Mr. Biden’s lawyers saw classified documents in the closet, they immediately cleared the room, a person briefed on the situation said. The Biden team did not conduct its own systematic audit of the files.

Were documents also mutilated or destroyed?
Mr. Trump appears to have destroyed official documents. Former aides have said he ripped up files while in office, and a letter from the National Archives indicated that some of the files it retrieved had been mutilated. There has been no allegation that Mr. Biden destroyed public records.​

 

The numbers don't really matter. It's what the documents were. Remember, Trump had the Nuke codes and was going to sell them to his Russian buddies!!

 

my point is did not the people 6 years ago comprehend the notice on them " classified" or were they just stupid hourly movers hired.

 

but hunter was going to beat him with the chinnese

 

The mere fact that Biden stuffed them in a private closet is a threat to national security, as I was informed regarding Trump's handling of the documents keeping them at Mar-a-lago. And he kept them for a shorter period of time.

Considering the threat to national security that Joe Biden posed in taking the documents home, he should feel the full brunt of the law. That means impeachment and an FBI investigation.

Must be nice to be a Democrat, be ahead of a story (perhaps even knowing it will eventually come out, think Chris and Andrew Cuomo), apologize publicly and you get a slap on the wrist. Somehow I think if Trump gives a mea culpa (not that he's ever done one), the response won't be graceful. It'll be "YOU SEE, HE ADMITS IT" followed by public mockery by our establishment media and legal consequences.

 

How can anyone claim Trump was negotiating with the National Archives when after Trump returned some of the documents, Trump has his lawyers lie on a affidavit which stated Trump had returned all classified materials? Or even after this lie, when someone from the Archives office did visit to confirm there were still classified materials at MAR, and asked for them to be returned, Trump refused?

Yes, it's bad that Biden didn't return the classified materials like he should have. But again, that's not as uncommon as some would lead you to believe. Millions of classified documents produced annually, and new cases of docs being in places where they should not be every month. Return the docs and show no nefarious purpose for having the docs, and nothing bad happened, and civilians almost always get off easy in these cases. But lie about having the docs, stonewall the return, and flat out refuse to cooperate, and it's a different story.

As for Hillary, the FBI had no reason to request a warrant. All items requested by the DOJ was turned over by Hillary. Can't say the same about Trump, who again, had his lawyers lie on a affidavit about having more classified documents in his possession. And again, refused to turn them over when requested by the Archives on multiple occasions.

 

or 3 months w/o the telestrater at new conferences, if he has them...

 

Amazing how quickly things change.

First it was, "this is a serious threat to national security, unbecoming of a President. And it's illegal, he should feel the full force of the law."

Now, it's "well this is actually kind of common."

 

I've stated several times that had Trump fully cooperated with the National Archives in March, 2021, and all materials been returned by April, 2021, the Trump story would have been a nothing burger. But that's not what Trump did at all.

I've also linked to previous cases of classified materials being out of place and how civilians, as long as they cooperate fully and had no ill-intent barely face any repercussions at all. Again, as soon as Biden's team discovered the docs, they called the Archives and returned them poste haste. Can we say the same about Trump? No. It took 18 months and an FBI raid before the Archives finally get a hold of all the docs.

 

another point. if he knew he had documents in his office when moving, the very first thing he should have done was turn them over to the proper people, thus no chance of getting " packed by mistake ". but he is sleepy, inept, pudding brain joe so he gets a pass, hope border czar kamala in 2025 turns over any she has when leaving her office.

 

Yes, takes a lot to say that AFTER the Biden story comes out, you know when it's actually politically advantageous to Democrats and Biden.

 

Been saying had Trump cooperated fully with the Archives from Day 1, this story would have been a nothing burger. What makes what Trump different includes, but is not limited to:

• Originally stonewalling the Archives
• Not giving the Archives 100% of the materials when Trump agreed to
• Lying on the affidavit that Trump gave 100% of the materials
• Not complying/stonewalling with the Archives again once it was established the Trump had lied on the affidavit and classified materials were still being stored at MAR

Now, did Biden do anything like this once the docs stored in his office were discovered? No. The Biden team immediately returned all the docs without any hassle. Trump was offered several opportunities to do the same, and failed.

 

FY

How the Discovery of Classified Files in Biden’s Office Compares With the Trump Case
Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;

(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and

(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section.​

 

Trump's office wasn't searched until he refused to fully comply with what he was asked FOR 14 MONTHS.

You should really stop talking about things you know little to nothing about.

 

what you are describing is revenge politics, ie using the gubmnt agencies to attack your opponent personally. this is not what the american voters want. it is what vengeful petty people want. this tribalization of gubmnt is good for nobody.

 

Thanks, I was aware of the Article II power, not the Executive Order. Thanks for the clarification.

 

This is has really getting to be quite silly. I don't think anyone on here thinks that Trumps ducugate and Biden's docugate are the same, other than they are both docugates, both involve classified materials, both involve having possession when they shouldn't have, both probably exposed classified documents to unclassified people, wait a minute, these incidents have more in common than I thought!!!!