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Classified documents found in Biden’s old office and garage, and other office, and residence

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Jan 9, 2023.

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    2d set of docs found in Biden’s Delaware garage. Good Grief.
     
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  7. danmanne65

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    Honestly are we over 20 documents yet? Trump intentionally took thousand of documents. Ignored efforts to get them back. Had lawyers obfuscate that he didn’t have them and then the fbi had to issue a search warrant to get them back.

    Biden took maybe 2 dozen documents. It isn’t right but can anybody see that there is a difference in scale and intention.
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    We should all just wait until we know more, especially the level of classification and whet the docs were generally. Lots of just "C" marked docs that really are not that big a deal. We should wait to find out the facts
     
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    Scale means nothing with classification. It could be a single sentence that could be very bad if it falls into the wrong hands.
     
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    Intent means a lot in these cases.
     
  11. Tjgators

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    C'mon man my garage is locked!
     
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    Yeah. Even when there's clear intent, I'm not sure what is typical in terms of sentencing. Patreous was providing classified information to his paramour and pled guilty. I don't recall how but he got it pled down to a misdemeanor and just got a fine and probation. Maybe part of that was because the classified information wasn't super classified or damaging? I don't know.
     
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    Intent may matter in the court of public opinion (doubtful in our current polarized state), but isn’t taking official government records and putting them in your office or garage a strict liability kind of thing when it comes to possessing them, (unless they’ve been approved by the Archives as personal records)? That’s why it ultimately didn’t matter if Trump had declassified all the docs at MAL, because he didn’t have the right to possession in the first place.

    And honestly, we don’t know what Biden’s intent, if any, was in taking them, do we? We just know a raid wasn’t needed to get them back, and the numbers so far are far less than the last guy.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if all
    Of these guys don’t commingle some docs on their way out, there are hundreds of thousands of pages over a 4 year term. But this just looks terrible for Biden, regardless of the numbers.
     
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    National secuity crisis! How do we know he wasn't selling secrets to china?
     
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  15. tilly

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    Good on CNN for not sweeping this.
    They are hammering him pretty good.
     
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    By hammering do you mean actually reporting on it? :p
     
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    Not going to say which is which but my guess in the end is that one special counsel will find deliberate misbehavior and aggravating factors with respect to the mishandling of classified documents which could support a recommendation for prosecution while the other special counsel will find negligence but no aggregating factors that would justify a recommendation for criminal prosecution.
    In the case of the classified documents, it’s more serious for Trump than Biden
    Trump Could Face 'Multiple' Felonies in Classified Documents Probe
     
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    The Dems are ready to usher in Kamala and kick Joe to the curb. I'm surprised it took this long.
     
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    and every enemy nation is licking their chops if that happens, she is a homage to 2 sets of voters, we know who they are, nothing more.
     
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