Christain megachurch pastor says Trumpsters should use violence to take back America

I suspect many people here don’t view the Bible as a definitive source for anything. When you post that the “Bible says” this or that, why do you think anybody cares?

As the OP topic demonstrates, any jackass can claim the most ridiculous assertions being motivated by their interpretation of the Bible. Until you make arguments on their merits, outside of your interpretation of what the Bible says, nobody is going to take you seriously.

 

He’s so bad. He’s so wrong.

 

Who can tell the real Christians from the fakes anymore? Until they start to distinguish themselves from one another, I can’t be bothered to give a sh!t.

 

I was asked a question about why I don't resort to violence as a Christian if I believe the DNC platform seeks the complete destruction of American civilization. That was my answer. I cannot answer questions about why I believe anything relating to Christianity without referencing the Bible. Are you saying I shouldn't have answered his question? I suppose I could take a permanent hiatus and leave the board for good. Is that what you are suggesting?

 

Yeah, this is just a lot of cognitive dissonance for wanting to use rhetoric that is extremist while not really following it to its logical conclusion. It is pretty common on the political right currently, as extremism is becoming more and more mainstreamed. However, at the current time, violence is still relatively unpopular, so the same people claim to be opposed to violence while, at the same time, utilizing violent rhetoric and rhetoric that could easily be used to justify violence. However, it is not currently tactically useful for extremists to outright support violence, so we end up with this sort of a game.

For an example of this dichotomy, I find it fascinating how many people that claim that they need an arsenal of guns to stop the government from becoming tyrannical hate the notion of actually using guns against government figures that those individuals view as tyrannical (e.g., police, military, politicians, etc.). I find a similar effect on the Christian right. They like to use highly emotionally charged terms like murder, holocaust, etc. and then act shocked that somebody would do something like be violent to prevent murder and holocausts, which you just stated was biblical (before saying it is not the answer). I suspect that you will continue to see extremist pastors continue to press that line, trying to determine when it is tactically best to utilize violence. I suspect that most Christian extremists could justify it if need be when it becomes tactically useful to get what they want.

 

What would be the benefit to the DNC to “destroy” the US? Exactly what pivot to power exists in that scenario?

 

Certainly isn’t my Pastor.

 

And evidence of election corruption poured into the courts like a bunch of mailed-in ballots. BTW was it surprising that mailed-in ballots favored Biden, since Trump specifically told his supporters to vote in person, not by mail?

 

Before Covid, mail-in ballots leaned more Republican. This is why mail in is big in FL and Arizona.

This flip-flop on mail ballots is just another product of the covid denying idiocy the President deployed. If the President didn’t call covid a hoax he wouldn’t have had to encourage his voters to vote in person to “prove” it, but he did, and here we are. The Republicans who voted in person when they traditionally would have used mail, in effect, were the sharpie pen changing the path of a hurricane.

 

If there's one thing I've learned in in life, it's "People can be relied upon to always act in their own best interests."

I'm not religious at all. But I can accept some people are, and that's fine. I can't help but wonder how many who are, must feel pretty annoyed seeing this guy leverage Christianity to push such an obviously non-Christian agenda.

Violence, really?

Head and wobble time.

 

Spoken like someone that doesn’t understand the actual teachings of Jesus Christ. I don’t see how anyone could have a problem with the message of “love your neighbor”.

 

Amazing insight. You know what is in a man’s heart? Please share how?
You know the ins and outs of another’s posters religious beliefs or are you generalizing?
There are vast gulfs of differences between what this man is teaching and what Christ taught.. and being a Christian means being Christlike. Can everyone paint with such a broad brush about other religions? Are all Mormons the same? All Hindus? All Muslims?
Can everyone assume to know what is in each of their hearts and judge by the most base and vile proclaiming that religion?
Can we do the same for occupations?
Genders?
Skin color?
Or is it only a special few who are given that insight?

 

I’ve seen enough of plank’s shitposting on this site to know that he’s completely missed the mark on Christ. Just to a different degree than the pastor in the OP.

 

LOL @ the GOP “Christians” that have no problems at all whatsoever “loving their neighbors”

To you I assume that means the other white folks that live in your gated community and attend your church. Lmao. Love your neighbor. Swing and a miss!

 

Next up, jets for jesus

 

You truly enjoy using that broadbrush approach.. you cool when others do it to you?

 

what percentage of Americans claiming to be Christians actually ARE Christians in your opinion?

 

A “True Christian” Republican is about as rare as a fiscally conservative Republican. They are a rare species, kind of like Bigfoot. We hear rumors of their existence, some insist they’ve actually caught a fleeting glimpse, but good luck actually seeing the concrete evidence of one in the wild.

 

That’s easy. In my observations Christian people are happy and living the life they enjoy showing kindness and generosity to everyone. The others are angry and bitter people who believe in authoritarian rule, and want to ban certain music, books, and political parties.

In every profession there are those who are in that profession for the wrong reasons, and sadly those people give the profession a bad name. It’s been my unfortunate experience to have run into the angry bitter ones more often than not. They carry a lot of weight, have large congregations, and have a tendency to stray from a Christian message much like Muslim extremists stray from Muslim teachings who we’ve been battling in the Middle East.

My last experience was with a Christian university (Southeastern University in Lakeland, Fl) where I went to hear Tebow speak. They were looking for donations, but the message I got from the university was one that reeked of religious snobbery where if you weren’t one of them already then you had no business being there.

Then there’s this…

 

There is a difference in “follow” and “support”. But you know this. And instead of wanting a fair conversation on the issues. You prefer to make the discussion impossible and about a person rather than the actual issues.