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Carville suggests Trump admin will ‘collapse’ within 30 days

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  1. flgator2

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    Carville suggests Trump admin will ‘collapse’ within 30 days

    “I believe that this administration, in less than 30 days is in the midst of a massive collapse and particularly a collapse in public opinion,” Carville said during a conversation with Mediaite’s Dan Abrams about the Trump administration’s unprecedented recent actions.

    “It’s collapsing right now. We’re in the midst of a collapse,” Carville replied. “This is the lowest approval, not even close, that any president has ever had at a comparable time.”

    As the Trump administration moves to slash federal spending through Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), concern and shock has spread across the country. Thousands of federal workers are out of work as DOGE is examining various federal agencies, potentially gaining access to sensitive information.

    Another example of the delusional left, can't wait to hear from the cult on this
     
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  2. BLING

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    All modern Republican administrations have ended in “collapse”. So the only thing novel here is the idea Trump could manage it in just 30 days. That seems a bit rapid to me.

    Whether that happens longer term probably depends on the tariffs and other potentially catastrophic economic moves. “It’s the economy stupid”.
     
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  3. slocala

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    Popularity for a lame duck is irrelevant. Don’t think he cares who follows him unless it is one of his kids.
     
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  4. tilly

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    I find James Carville endearing in a weird way.
    He will call out his own sides idiocy too.
     
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  5. dynogator

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    I'd say more like mid-summer, when everyone is sweltering, hurricanes are tearing up the coastlines (FEMA, what FEMA?) inflation has increased, and unemployment is growing.
     
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    I don't think it will happen, but he's sending up a fleet of trial balloons on the subject. Unsurprisingly, his loyal followers think ignoring the 22nd Amendment is a super idea, and respond with enthusiastically affirmative chants.

    "President Donald Trump on Thursday again raised the prospect of serving for an unconstitutional third term, asking a crowd at a White House event whether he should run again and receiving audience chants of “Four more years!”
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    The only inaccuracy in James Carville's prediction is the 30-day timeline. Mentioned it in several other posts the most accurate analogy of Trump 2.0 is George W. Bush's second term. Following his reelection in 2004 and by a larger margin than Trump in 2024 as well with larger Republican majorities in both the House and Senate, W thought that he had a mandate for radical change. His approval rating tanked after he proposed partial privatization of Social Security and stayed underwater for the balance of his term. Trump's changes are far more radical, he is implementing them much sooner with total disregard for the consequences and his approval ratings in multiple polls already have him underwater although his hardcore supporters still love him and even their support will start eroding once the economy starts tanking.
     
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    Somewhat related to the topic of this thread. Maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think the original poster in this thread would consider Frank Luntz, a well respected Republican pollster, a "wacko".
    Donald Trump's approval rating slide "significant"—Republican strategist

    Trump is apparently scheduled to give a speech on March 4 in which he will be saying that lowering prices may take time. Reminds me of the statements from Biden's advisors referring to inflation under Old Joe as "transitory". When that rate of inflation didn't drop within a couple months of the statement the administration was ridiculed for the rest of Biden's term for using the adjective "transitory". Rather than declining the rate of inflation is almost certain to increase thanks to Trump's tariffs.
     
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  10. dynogator

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    I liken him to George Will. Entertaining eccentrics.
     
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  11. G8R92

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    Did you see a direct quote from Carville stating that in 30 days, the Trump admin will collapse?
     
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    I relied on the title of this thread which was a misrepresentation of what Carville said. What he actually said (paraphrasing) was that popular opinion of Trump would begin collapsing within 30 days and I do think that is accurate considering that Trump's approval rating has declined in four different polls and that he is now underwater in all four polls adding that the approval rating of virtually no other president has been underwater this early in his term.
     
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  14. citygator

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    Seems like Carville reads Too Hot. The polls fell steeply this month so far. Predicting a continued plummeting of approval isnt far fetched. But then... maybe your faith, thoughts and prayers will stop the slide.

    Moronic activities of Musk isnt helping. The 5 thing email is now a world wide joke.

    Reuters/Ipsos: Trump's already low poll numbers siding fast | Swamp Gas Forums
     
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  15. G8R92

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    Going to use that 5 things list with my employees. See how that floats.....
     
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    They are too drunk with power to care about poll numbers at this point.
     
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    I’ll check back in 29 days.
     
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    I have to disagree on his timeline. It will collapse but I expect it will be closer to summer when this happens. My reasoning is that despite his selection of TV hosts and right wing podcasters to be in charge of departments, people couldn’t care less AT THIS TIME if government workers get fired. So this, AT THIS TIME, isn’t a hill Democrats should die on. As Carville said in the 90’s “It’s the economy stupid” which is a lagging indicator, and will start to affect people this spring. So when the costs of things are higher because of the tariffs, farmers and building contractors can’t find workers, unemployment starts to rise, and they can’t get their tax refund because of the firings at the IRS, then you’ll see a significant collapse.

    One thing I can’t figure out is who is the useful idiot in this mess, Trump or Musk. Is Musk using Trump’s position to get more money, or is Trump using Musk to take the blame for all of it. I guess it’s probably both.
     
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  19. BLING

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    Exactly. Another key difference is Trumps stated policies that he leads with are definitely inflationary (deporting migrant work force and tariffs). Potentially extremely inflationary if it causes product shortages.

    Biden had no such inflationary policy, other than perhaps Infrastructure act. Infrastructure act has govt $$$ bidding up construction related commodities and there’s no denying it (esp at a time where construction commodities are already considered high or stretched). But spending on infrastructure is a long term investment and sort of unavoidable unless you want to accept crumbling infrastructure.
     
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    Although collapse seems overstated and hyperbolic and I assume you are taking it out of context. Support is waning. It was always low for a new president and in little more than a month is approaching 40 percent.
     
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