Critical moment in the game today. In bounds play by TAM with the Gators up 80-78. Call on the floor was Gator ball. After review, foul called and TAM awarded 2 FTs to tie the game. Not a rules guru, but how does that happen? Agree that the Gator player likely fouled, but….WTF.
I believe the 3rd official called the foul. Furthest from the play. I don't think they called it on review. I think they went to see if they agree with the 3rd official.
Weird sequence there, but yes, it was a foul. I wish we would have gotten the ball to Castleton or drove the lane after the free throws. Might have gotten a make up call. Course we end up shooting a long missed 3.
Yeah…our shot selection on the final possession is another matter. Just blown away by a review that seemed to result in a foul call that was NOT called by the 2 officials in the best position to make the call. Was unaware of the alleged foul call by anyone else….hence the question. So if the call was made, what were they reviewing?
I think it was *wrong* because no initially called a foul, but correct because it was definitely a foul.
It looked like the refs came together and one of them had it as a foul. It was a foul in my opinion. I don’t know what they went to the monitors for, maybe to make sure the time was right. But I don’t think they made the call of a foul based on replay.
In my opinion it was no foul. Our defense forced a bad inbounds pass. Both players had a right to the ball. Both players were leaping for the bad pass. They hit each other in the air. The ref closest and with a CLEAR sightline made the initial call. No other ref signaled anything. Not only was the call questionable in general, it was almost unprecedented to have the closer, obstructed ref overruled. Then factor in that refs usually swallow whistles in crunch time. So to not signal a foul, then to huddle and overturn the closest ref to the play was terrible. We forced the bad pass. They got bailed out by terrible officiating practice and frankly a questionable call period even had it been called at the start. Both players have a right to that bad pass.
Well said. I'd add that TAMU was also bailed-out several times late in the game and OT on out-of-control drives and throwing up the ball generally toward the goal and getting a foul call. It was so obvious we discussed in the Game Thread that was TAMU's offensive strategy. @akaGatorhoops reminded me of the ticky-tack foul on Duruji 30' away from the basket. Why run any offense when you'll get 2 FTs? Yet TAMU shoved CC all game and pushed him for rebounds and slapped the arms of our ball handlers causing or at least contributing to turnovers . . . and none of that was called and especially not called in hindsight.
Yep. I mentioned a couple times in the game thread that TAMU’s strategy was to push and hold CC and make the refs call it. I played a lot of teams like that. They know the refs won’t call all the subtle stuff so they become experts at it. When they finally do get called on it, they jump up and down like they didn’t even touch you. It’s so much easier to play like that then actually move your feet and establish legal position. Thing is, a slight shove or bump at the right time, to the right part of the body will throw off everything and result in a turnover. I can’t stand that crap. Just play clean.
My issue is simple, if the 3rd ref called a foul, then why was there a review? The official closest called UF ball, official on baseline just called dead ball. So furthest guy calls the foul, hard to believe, but if he did, why would you then review. Is there a scenario where they would review a foul call and reverse the call and say, no foul? It reminds me of football when they review a fumble/incomplete pass by the QB. Then upon review they realize there should have been a 15 yard penalty for facemask. Penalties can't be reviewed, the only option they have to call is incomplete or fumble the facemask is irrelevant. I had my computer on mute, so I just assumed the review was to make sure the ball went out on A&M. Fleming was being aggressive and the A&M inbounder threw a ball up for grabs. Honestly, I'm not sure he even lands in bounds if Fleming doesn't touch him, his momentum was headed full speed to the sidelines.
To me it seems like Tennessee and South Carolina play us that way every game. I'm sure some other teams would say the same about playing UF in the past as well.
Somebody who knows what's what pointed-out in the Game Thread there was actually no review. The refs just huddled and changed the call. Apparently the other two out-voted the one closest to the event that had the best angle. I was busy typing "Turnover!" Makes me wonder several things not worthy of being posted in NBN . . .
They huddled, but then went to the table, right? Because MW was about to go off on one of them, unless someone called a TO and that's why they came to the table?
The out of control drives and bail outs were frustrating. They shot 30 plus FTs in the 2nd half and OT.
I'm sorry . . . I didn't see that part. I saw the clip of the last second and saw the sideline ref indicating Florida ball and looked at the baseline ref to see what he indicated and it was only a dead ball. I thought their discussion was ENTIRELY about who the ball last touched and was typing and watching what was being posted in the Game Thread. @murphree_hall would have probably seen it.
Agreed on Tennessee and South Carolina. I remember when Chris Silva was there they really roughhoused us. Also agree that others might see us that way. It’s hard as a fan to see your team through that lens, but it’s possible. To my eyes, we generally play clean defense, but could be it’s what I want to see.
