California Fast Food Restaurants have cut 10,000 jobs since $20 Minimum Wage

Very few Americans are willing to labor that hard under the sun for the wages it pays.
But when the deportations happen those wages will have to go up too. That is also an inflationary action.

 

Many of the jobs lost were also from restaurants closing. These were lower performing restaurants and likely destined to close regardless of minimum wage. Restaurants close all the time.

And just did a quick look. Indeed has over 7,500 fast food job openings in California. So between jobs being outsourced and current openings, it's likely most of these who lost their jobs won't have a difficult time to find something else. And if people from CA don't mind the heat, there are an additional 2,400 fast food job openings in neighboring Arizona.

 

“Steady paycheck.” The whole reason for the increase in wage is because they weren’t making enough to make any type of viable living, lol. 40 hours a week making $9 an hour isn’t going to get you far anywhere, and they would end up having to work multiple jobs, anyway.

 

You believe that if a person starts a bidness, that they are responsible for their employees making a viable living & if they don't the gov should force them to?

 

100%. If you aren't out to do that when you start a business, what does that make you other than a kind of slaver or vampire seeking to take from others to enrich yourself?

 

1) This is about fast food workers, and yes, McDonald’s makes more than enough to pay their employees more, lol.

2) If you start a small business and can’t afford to pay your employees what they deserve, don’t start one in the first place.

 

Link? I’ll give you a hint, you won’t find one because this is simply false. Fast food started in the wake of implementation of FDR’s national minimum wage which was enacted under the following premise:

McDonald’s was affordable in the 1950s and all its workers were being paid a living wage. The problem is that minimum wage has not kept up with inflation. I don’t believe raising worker’s wages is the problem here as the headcount has remained the same. If fast food has become unaffordable it is due to other factors.

 

I think FDR’s sentiments on the topic are quite good:

"It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By 'business' I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white-collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living."

 

My biggest issue with the people who say “get a better job” is that many of the individuals who work these jobs aren’t capable of doing so, whether it be due to home life situation, learning disabilities, or whatever the case may be. Not everyone is going to grow up and be a doctor, lawyer, scientist, etc. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a fair chance to make a living.

 

Well, if they are not making a livable wage they will end up getting food benefits and section 8 housing and other entitlements and so (we) the government end up paying anyway.

 

I am almost entirely opposed to the government setting prices. What FDR said sounds like it makes people better off & how can you be opposed to that? I disagree that such a position makes people better off. I think it almost always makes them worse off.

 

Or Adam Smith:

Classical Liberalism ≠ Libertarianism

 

yes. but that creates far less dead weight loss than mandating prices. No one gets a dead weight loss....

 

Yes. That's what a civilized society does.

 

So in your bizarro world, no minimum wage is a better deal for laborers than one that approximates a living wage?

 

what if it makes people worse off? You seem to "know" price setting makes people better off. On what principle is this based?

 

Ok great. So then why should we help people or incentivize those who are only out to make money for themselves? Lets make all the laws favor workers then.

 

Not speaking specifically about a minimum wage, though history has clearly shown one is needed. Speaking more generally about the government's role in supporting the populace. If left strictly to the capitalism, we know what happens because we've seen it happen time and time again both here and in other countries.