L as That’s the point. Those are the teams we should be on par with. Collectively Billy has been at UF longer than the average tenure at those schools, and those schools were all dumpster fires. Billy should not be so far behind that tier
UCF and MSU are two of the worst P5 teams in the nation. They are at the bottom of their conference. Those teams stink. It means we beat teams nearly every other P5 team will beat. I’m thrilled we aren’t at the absolute bottom but that’s nothing to be proud of
Miami- 3rd year coached team blew out florida at home. aTm- first year coach for a team that lost 6 games last year and a backup qb blew out florida at home. Tennessee- 4th year coach that went 7-6, 11-2, 9-4 and is currently 6-1. Florida coaching error cost 3 points at a minimum which could have been the difference in the game. How is this not pertinent? You and others claim its negativity and spin. There isn't anything to spin. Are recruits who decommit being negative because they haven't seen enough improvement? And citing these facts doesn't mean people aren't hoping we somehow break the trends we've seen and change the narrative. We just know it's a hope that Napier and the team become something they haven't shown to be able to be yet. We aren't rooting against him. I hope he proves everyone wrong. Outside of cignetti and maybe one other, don't see anyone that looks up to the challenge of reinvigorating this program. Respectfully, we went over this with Mike White over the years as well. Class act. Dealt with incredibly bad injury luck. Was totally behind him probably until the year after the Duke game choke when i realized he was what he was. Former staunch supporters were called negative and while there were certainly the usual negative nellies relatively early on, most had supporter him until the data was too much against doing so. Now we are looking Golden. Miami was Napier's Duke game for me. Not that I'm fire Napier or bust but at this point but he has to win some games going forward. That's all.
Seriously? As if you are objective. You are quick to complain when people give you bacon instead of responding to your posts. I give you an honest and accurate response and you are whining about it. You brought up the 3 teams as examples that I referenced, not me. If you want an echo chamber for your posts you are in the wrong place. Be better. Maybe if Napier had more wins there would be far less negativity. In fact after the KY win that has been the case. If he beats Georgia, I will be happy to give him credit.
Curt Cignetti is the coaching story of the year, bar none. The subtle sniping of him here is laughable. No, I’m not crowning him as the next Nick Saban. What he’s done at Indiana in just year 1 is remarkable, understatement. Spin the schedule nonsense all you want. It’s In-di-ana, B1G doormat. He has an Urban-like resume, no he’s not Urban either. He started as a HC at a small program and has progressively moved up levels. He’s been very successful at all stops now. This after being on Nick’s staff at Alabama. I firmly believe this without hesitation, he would not go 5-7 at UF this season. If there’s an opening here this year, I just hope Cignetti gets serious consideration and vetting.
We are simply having a discussion. Not sure why you are getting so upset. I disagree on the accuracy of your response, but that’s just my opinion.
Its the bigger job but job security and happiness may be better elsewhere. If you want a shot at winning or getting fired, UF is far superior.
So as to narrow and try to focus this sprawling conversation, let's try this. Stoops is DONE. Kiffin is DONE.
I've been a very vocal critic but I'm slightly optimistic he might be turning a corner. I will say I'm not a critic of almost anyone personally, just how they make decisions. I think he's made some very poor leadership decisions but I've always thought he was capable of being great should he look at why he's making poor decisions in some areas, compare his choices with successful leaders and adapt. But this applies to most people, unfortunately most people aren't capable or willing to consciously look at their failures and figure out why. As a leader myself in my profession (much less prestigious and less compensated than BN) I do 100% support the attention to detail mindset but I see him saying it rather than doing it all too often.
Weird, one good game and people are back on the Billy train. He needs to go 4-2 in the next 6 games(including bowl game) just to get his record to 19-19 in 3 years.
"I'm slightly optimistic he might be turning a corner." -> "people are back on the Billy train." Straw man alert.
Yes I'm very far from on his train but I'm open to the possibility of letting him drive a train people might get on next season. Not that my opinion matters here I still won't be on that train. Maybe in 2026.
