**Buzz Buzz Buzz** - Are you Kiffen me? I'll have my crow... In a BOWL please.

Exactly. The conversation between recruits is going to be "Hey guys, that coach we thought might get fired, they decided to give him one more year. We gotta go to Florida now. Yeah yeah yeah, I know we might have to transfer after one year when they fire him then, but we gotta put our marbles on Napier. Our futures aren't important."

 

That’s a separate question. I think we win more games this year under an interim than under Billy. We beat UT under Mike P, Spikes, Ham, Cal, etc.

So I’d rather fire now, win more games, and not have a civil war at 6-6 versus giving Billy the longest shot to win 8.

When we fire him is not that big of a deal to me though. Just know if he gets to 6 or 7 he needs to go. Don’t even try to talk yourself into it

 

7 becomes debatable if one of the wins is UGA. 6 is no freaking way. Thats awful

 

It’s best for the team if he finishes the year and wins some games regardless of what happens after the season.

 

why is that? We obviously disagree on what path gets more wins this year, so ignoring W-L can you explain why it’s better

 

I will agree with you on this, but I think it's borderline silly to think he will win more than 1 more game this year. His track record is what it is. We all see the in-game turtling and disorganization. I'm going to let him prove me wrong before I even consider it, because I have the historical record. It's not like he's a first year coach.

 

Um, the first game Lagway started and played the whole game WAS Samford. Do you even follow this football team?
Talent can overcome mistakes with time, which is why Napier's method of working him in gradually was perfect. You don't break him mentally or place undue pressure on a true freshman. Did you see the TAMU game? Mertz was light years better. DJ was awful.....struggled like the freshman he is vs a savvy defense. Mertz was generally better vs UT as well.
DJ made some great deep throws but still had plenty of struggles last night.....one pick and 2 or 3 more that were VERY dangerous, he struggled with his reads. He will get better, but Mertz gave us the luxury of not having to force him into bad situations. I suspect there will be a lot of people wishing Mertz was available when UGA throws stuff at DJ he isn't yet ready for.
Throwing a true freshman qb to the wolves isn't optimal.....that's football 101. Most everyone here understands that. Working them in gradually as their comfort level improves and the game slows down is always best. We no longer have that option, that's not a good thing. Pity some cannot grasp that.

 

Before we go all circle jerk for Cignetti, let's see how he does the second half of the season when the schedule gets tougher:



The first half of the season has been all cupcakes:

 

This is part of why I like Klieman. He has some solid wins

 

He’s beating teams that have significantly more talent than he has. We need a coach he can outperform talent levels

 

Ohhhh... you're right.... he did play the entire Samford game, didn't he? And set the Florida record for passing yardage by a true freshman, didn't he?? And so now out of 7 games, the only 2 games Lagway started and played the entire game are the two games we have our highest point totals? Thank you for making my argument for me. Have a nice day.

 

Because rally around the flag...the players are playing for their embattled coach and you want to switch him out now on the eve of the gauntlet..wanna see a bunch of kids quit on this team and the school..thats the formula...the time to can him has passed..PLUS..not your money to pay a buyout huh..

 

None of those guys have ever been a hc so that’s a reach with nothing to go on. The team has improved.

 

I disagree that it's irrelevant when it's historically bad. Have we ever been this behind in recruiting at this point in the recruiting cycle? Early Signing period is even earlier this year and that's when the vast majority of signings happen.

 

Top 5 no.....but a talented class you can win with. The young guys on this roster are starting to emerge, other than OL there is a lot to like with his high school recruiting and this class likely would be solid as well. This was always going to be a smaller class, I had seen speculation of 18-20 HS kids and portal for the rest, so ranking wouldn't be elite anyway.

 

The players love the guy, you keep the locker room AND limit portal defections and guys shutting it down.

 

I think Cignetti's profile is particularly more impressive than Klieman's.

Klieman basically maintained the level of NDSU (slightly worse than the previous few years IIRC) and has been about 1 game better each year than the last 5 of Snyder's tenure at KSU. I also don't think Klieman is really a style match for UF and would be perceived as very boring and milquetoast.

Cignetti has significantly (at worst) or drastically (at best) improved every program he's been HC, and did so in Year 1. I am very, very interested to see how he does the remainder of the year. I watched most of the IU/Nebraska game and that team looks incredibly well coached across every dimension. I don't think people realize just how awful of a program Indiana is.

 

Either you don't know what a cupcake is or you are completely ignorant to the talent profiles of IU and their opponents to date.

Indian #57
UCLA #29
Charlotte #66
Maryland #51
NW #55
Neb #23

Every one of those is similar talent, AKA not a cupcake, or superior talent. Indiana is not Florida, Indiana are the ones who are supposed to be the cupcake. I would bet every dollar I have if that team was on UF's schedule preseason every person on this board to a man would chalk that up as a W like Samford.

 

Of course it's not good, congrats on your mastery of the obvious for once. Wish that was a consistent trait you could employ regularly.
But yes, he wins 8 games and saves his job the recruiting class will be very good. Top 10 is arbitrary and unlikely given the class size won't support that.