Boy turns into girl, then rapes friend…going to male prison

"We guys" have support from metadata. You have anecdotes, fear, and quite an impressive persecution complex. "The game" is that we want people to understand that claims about trans people being "groomers" or likely to engage in sexual violence are, at best, highly biased. At worst, it's fodder for right wing news and social media posts to demonize people and perpetuate violence against trans people. Our "game" is trying to convince y'all that trans people aren't scary, evil, deviant, or whatever else you want to label them with to reduce violence and persecution of people because they're different than you.

I can't stop you from engaging in this behavior. Crying about me stopping "people that will question how we don't live in a society where people feel comfortable to speak their mind" is ridiculous. I've not told you to stop talking. Your self-flaggelation is not my problem nor did I cause it. All I can do is explain how you're patently wrong. How you draw your own conclusions from extensive data is your own issue. That won't stop me from saying you're being both transphobic and peddling nonsense that's putting people's lives at risk. :\

If you're afraid of sexual violence, avoid:

• Close friends and family
• Youth ministers and priests
• Current or former spouses or partner

Per Sandra L. Martin, Bonnie S. Fisher, Marie C. D. Stoner, Cynthia Fraga Rizo & Michelle L. Wojcik (2022), cis-gender men were, per capita, the most prevalent perpetrators of sexual violence. The idea that trans people are more involved in sex work seems, well, presumptuous and without evidence. If you need to clutch your purse, consider the above.

 

Trans advocates breathe sigh of relief as Manhattan stops prosecuting sex work

"Nearly 11 percent of transgender people reported having participated in the sex trade, according to the 2015 National Transgender Discrimination Survey."

"Trans people — especially trans women of color — are more likely to engage in sex work:"

That seems quite a lot.

And I'm not say trans people are predisposed to violence or anything like that. I'm saying that trans people suffer from a mental disorder that makes them think they are a member of the opposite gender when they are not. I'm saying policy treating delusion as a reality opens the door for predators and bad people to exploit the system under the guise of transgenderism.

And frankly, it leads to bad outcomes even if there's no bad intentions on the part of anyone involved if we're just looking at women's sports, forcing women to shower and share bathrooms with men, etc. The man doesn't have to rape the woman for the woman to feel uncomfortable, and that feeling of being uncomfortable is perfectly normal. For some bizarre reason, we are just putting the feelings of transgender people ahead of both reality and the feelings of women.

 

I'm scared of artists b/c Hilter was an artist.

 

It's not a mental disorder. Gender Dysphoria is, but that's a feeling of identity outside of one's gender. Engaging in conversion treatments, however, provides relief. The "cure" here is hardly "pass laws that marginalize people, make self-expression illegal, or force people to maintain a gender identity that doesn't conform to their personal identity." These laws are little better than gay conversion "therapy" that's demonstratively harmed LGBTQ+ adults and youth.

Example? DeSantis' laws are a full ban on gender-affirming surgery regardless of analysis from professionals and, yes, parents. Adults desiring transition have to pass a state board. Where's the small government there? Where did he get these signed? A Christian school. What did he do? Quote Bible verses. One has to ask whether this is a "protection" or simply a way to impose his religious beliefs on those who aren't rabid fundamentalist Christians.

Reminder: your deeply-held religious beliefs should not dictate how others live, no matter what veneer of "parental rights" you sloppily apply it.

Link: DeSantis Bans Gender-Affirming Medical Care For Transgender Minors In Florida

These laws also indirectly criminalize teachers who dare refer to their same sex partner. If a cis-gendered teacher refers to their "wife" or "husband?" No issues. Being in a same-sex relationship or one with a trans person is no more sexual or deviant than a cis-gendered couple. Full stop.

Specifics on whether being transgender is a "mental disoder:"

Transgender: Gender Dysphoria and Ensuring Mental Health.

Per, WHO, who revised their definitions with new data:
World Health Assembly Update, 25 May 2019

APA claims the same. There was a time when homosexuality was declared a deviant mental disorder simply because being forced into an box that didn't match their identity produced predictable feelings of depression, among other things. TL;DR - you're conflating legitmate and real feelings of identity with ways to affirm it. The former is a disorder, the latter is a treatment. It's little different that allowing homosexual men and women to express who they are by being allowed to exist within the same social constructs cis-genered couples enjoy.



It's the act of peddling lies and propaganda that lead to marginalizing people, and subsequently, serious issues with depression. There's a reason why 82% of trans teenagers have considered suicide with 40% attempting it. Per the NIH, the root cause of this is stigma.

Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors - PubMed

If you bothered reading your article, you'll note that trans people have engaged in this work often as a last resort. They're denied promotions. They're denied equal protections under the law. 70% of those surveyed quote issues related to maintaining employment due to anti-trans discrimination. Some states are expressly denying protections to trans people. Do you starve or do what you have to in order to pay your bills? I've been that poor. You do what you have to do, especially as Republicans continue to unravel safety net programs to give tax breaks to rich people.

 

Caitlyn Jenner is a man. That is simply a basic truth.

Men and women are different, that is also a basic truth.

Pointing out basic human truths is not marginalization no matter how much you want it to be.

Building an environment for kids to teach them rather than confuse them is a social good.

Any Florida law that punishes instruction of gay relationships also punishes instruction of straight relationships. It just turns out people are less likely to complain about straight relationships because straight relationships are essential to the survival of the human race, even putting traditionalist and religious arguments aside, that's pure biology.

Minors, who we treat as incapable of consent, should not find it easier to legally castrate themselves than to legally buy a beer.

You can cite all of these medical establishment institutions all you want. The "science" didn't change, the politics did. And their definition of man and woman fail under the slightest bit of scrutiny which is why you (and they) immediately resort to the emotional appeals of "you're a transphobe" or "people will die." That is not an argument proving truth. That is an argument (which is not necessarily true on its face) suggesting "your words hurt feelings."

Disproportionate depression and suicidal tendencies because people point out basic human truths is evidence that helps prove mental illness in transgender people, not that they are otherwise healthy.

 

I should also note that first you said this:

Then you immediately backtracked and said this while still taking shots at me as though I was wrong.

First it's, "they're not more involved in sex work."

Then it's "they're more involved in sex work because of TRANSPHOBES."

How about you just say "sorry, I was wrong, they're more involved in sex work and that might skew the numbers a bit because that's generally a dangerous line of work which also likely contributes to depression."

 

I am entirely in favor of trans people getting the mental health treatment they need, and if that means elective castration as an adult so be it.

What I am not in favor of is the castration of children who are incapable of consent, the confusing of children by tax-funded institutions, and the bending of accepted reality on a societal level to enable the delusions of less than 1% of the population suffering from a mental disorder which specifically skews their perception of reality on that issue in the same way that a person suffering from anorexia has a skewed perception of the reality of how much they weigh.