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Block the UV, Freeze the Poles, Reverse GW?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Sep 15, 2022.

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  1. Sep 15, 2022 #1
    G8trGr8t

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    Interesting concept if the science is valid. $11B a year is a drop inthe bucket compared to cost of weather extremes associated with GW.

    Could refreezing the north and south poles reverse global warming? (msn.com)

    Aircraft would fly over the Arctic and Antarctic spraying particles - known as a stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI). They combat greenhouse gases by dimming starlight - cooling the whole planet, say the US team.

    The first author Professor Wake Smith, of Yale University: "It would seek to abate climate change by deflecting back into space a small fraction of the incoming solar radiation."

    The study found it would only have to be done in the sub-polar regions. Previous proposals have suggested using the technique across the planet. It would quickly envelop the poles and may arrest or reverse ice and permafrost melt at high latitudes - stopping sea level rise.

    Effective deployment at much lower altitudes than would be required in the tropics also presents fewer aeronautical challenges.. Prof Smith said: "Our model estimates the cost of implementing the subpolar SAI program to be $11 billion annually in 2022.
     
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  2. Sep 15, 2022 #2
    sierragator

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    The phrase "iatrogenic effect" comes to mind. eff around and find out....
     
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  3. Sep 15, 2022 #3
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  4. Sep 15, 2022 #4
    citygator

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    Just what the scientists did in Snowpiercer. That hasn’t gone well.
     
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  5. Sep 15, 2022 #5
    oragator1

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    This has been talked about for years.
    There are dozens of examples of us thinking we had a bright idea to offset oit mistakes in nature only to unleash and equally or even bigger one.
     
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  6. Sep 15, 2022 #6
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  7. Sep 15, 2022 #7
    14serenoa

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    Do I understand this aerosol polar injection into the Stratosphere would occur annually? and would that provide safeguards against adverse impacts?

    If this project was successful it may prove a temporary needed bridge of time before the global civilization is ever able to decarbonize our industry and our lives.
     
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  8. Sep 15, 2022 #8
    slocala

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    What would stop a rogue nation from doing this unilaterally?
     
  9. Sep 15, 2022 #9
    kygator

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    We should definitely increase spending on trains if we do this. Just in case.
     
  10. Sep 15, 2022 #10
    WarDamnGator

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    Or someone will capitalize on the idea with carbon offset credits, which give companies a green light to pollute more.
     
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  11. Sep 15, 2022 #11
    Trickster

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    Definition: A very common iatrogenic effect is caused by drug interaction, i.e., when pharmacotherapists fail to check for all medications a patient is taking and prescribe new ones that interact agonistically or antagonistically (thereby potentiating or attenuating the intended therapeutic effect).

    Unintended consequences comes to mind.
     
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  12. Sep 15, 2022 #12
    tilly

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    Lol. It sounds like an idea Trump would think of.
     
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  13. Sep 15, 2022 #13
    Trickster

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    Its a temporary solution, and unless one is found, the lives of our descendants will be a living hell.
     
  14. Sep 15, 2022 #14
    sierragator

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    yeah that
     
  15. Sep 15, 2022 #15
    WarDamnGator

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    Nah, Trump would be like “what if we nuke the sun?”
     
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  16. Sep 15, 2022 #16
    tilly

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    Well yeah, but the refreezing the polls thing would be to keep us cool from the fallout. Have you learned nothing?
     
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  17. Sep 15, 2022 #17
    tampajack1

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    We’re going to have to try something. Maybe this is the something. More importantly, will there be sales tax added on to the $11 billion? If so, we might not be able to afford it.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2022 #18
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    The difference is that it's actually based on science. Not sure about the science for treating Covid with bleach or light.
     
  19. Sep 15, 2022 #19
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    They could try it for one year and see what happens, maybe just do one pole.
     
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  20. Sep 16, 2022 #20
    tilly

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    Leaches were "science" too.

    This seems like a flirtation with disaster.
     
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