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Blinken says Iran’s nuclear weapon breakout time is probably down to 1-2 weeks

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Jul 19, 2024.

  1. WarDamnGator

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    After trashing the treaty, which was working, Trump did nothing to stop — or even slow down — Iran. Only an even bigger idiot would think doing nothing would stop Iran.
     
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  2. flgator2

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    Lol, total BS Iran has never honored any treaty it's signed. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
     
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  3. WarDamnGator

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    Iran was verifiably complying with the treaty and inspections… only the world’s biggest idiot would abandon it … then do absolutely nothing.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...-deal-restrictions-iaea-report-idUSKCN1LF1KP/

    From the 2018 UN inspectors report… the year master negotiator Trump trashed the deal and said he’d get us an even better deal… then instead played golf and forgot about it…

    "Timely and proactive cooperation by Iran in providing such access facilitates implementation of the Additional Protocol and enhances confidence," said the report, which was distributed to IAEA member states.
    "The production rate (of enriched uranium) is constant. There is no change whatsoever," a senior diplomat added.
     
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  4. G8tas

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    To think that the deal didn't slow down Iran is looking through a partisan lense. At least they were being inspected. The real question is why would you tear up the deal and then do nothing? Maybe Trump's plan was for them to speed up their project
     
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  5. WarDamnGator

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    The deal limited their number of centrifuges and how much enriched uranium Iran could possess for 15 years, and their compliance was being verified. So it stopped their ability to make nuclear weapons. The only really knock against the deal was that it was 15 years, and during that time Iran would be sharpening it's abilities with no guarantee they would extend the deal. But still, delaying Iran by at least 15 years is better than doing absolutely nothing ... and now they are apparently 2 weeks away instead of 10 years away. Trump's only reason for trashing the deal is that Obama scored a big win there, and Trump was obsessed with erasing Obama's legacy.
     
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  6. PacificBlueGator

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    The same rationale was in play with the ACA, undo an Obama legacy but have no plans to replace it, despite saying he had plans. In this case, Trump's feeble ego cost what 7 nations and two administrations worked on for over a decade to accomplish. And as expected, with nothing as an alternative and no monitoring, Iran became unhindered to a bomb.
     
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  7. slayerxing

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    Idk why you all even bother after page 1. There is nothing you can say to these zealots that would ever lead to them holding trump responsible for anything. Yesterday they were cheering for an iron dome for christs sake.
     
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  8. ATLGATORFAN

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    What part of the negotiation was $6billion Biden gave them ?

    Or this? I mean nothing says I’m going to prevent you from making centrifuges then sending $400,000,000 in fungible cash literally on pallets on the middle of The night. Only a zealot would believe Iran would not spend any of that on weapons or directly funding hamas or Hezbollah.


    US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-iran-oil-hamas-israel-gaza-df192c53



    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...en-hasnt-stopped-being-wrong-40-years/356785/
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    LOL, how in the hell is this Trump’s fault? Iran is the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism. Everybody knows you don’t negotiate with terrorists. And for all the tough talk from Biden about Putin and Xi, he has all but given the Iranian regime public handjobs and they still walk all over his old feeble ass. Trump policy regarding Iran was as spot on as it gets. They are TERRORISTS!! They are HAMAS!
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    Now do Trump negotiating with the Taliban.
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    Trump withdrew the US from the deal but it was still in place with other Western Allies. So you are saying Iran didn't honor the deal with the western allies?
     
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    Who on earth thinks terrorists will live up to any agreement?
     
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  13. tilly

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    Hey guys. Newsflash. Iran is going to continue their nuke program no matter who our potus is and no ones paper will matter.

    Until there is some dramatic shift in who is in power in Iran, this will be an issue.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    Okay, can you point out how they have not honored the Montreal Protocol, an agreement that they ratified? I am sure that you are quite familiar with that agreement, given this statement.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    I would also add that the inspections indicated that Iran was in compliance with the agreement. After Trump tore up the agreement Iran started enriching uranium beyond the level mandated in the agreement and thanks to the stable genius the Islamic regime is now very close to producing nuclear weapons.
    From 2018
    Iran is complying with nuclear deal restrictions: IEAE report
    VIENNA (Reuters) - Iran has remained within the main restrictions on its nuclear activities imposed by a 2015 deal with major powers, a confidential report by the U.N. atomic watchdog indicated on Thursday. In its second quarterly report since President Donald Trump announced in May that the United States would quit the accord and reimpose sanctions, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Iran had stayed within the caps on uranium enrichment levels, enriched uranium stocks and other items.
     
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  16. okeechobee

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    Obama and Biden.
     
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  17. okeechobee

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    NEWSFLASH: Trump will bankrupt Iran just like he did before. When you bankrupt a country, they’re less willing to start major wars with Israel via their proxies and even if they do achieve nuclear warhead delivery capability, by being so fractured economically, firing off a nuke ensures the complete and unconditional removal of that regime forever.
     
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  18. tilly

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    Yet the nuke is fired off. Thats my point.
     
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