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Blaxit: Tired of Racism, Black Americans Try Life in Africa

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by thelouisianagator, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    Great point. Future generations of immigrants typically take up English through schooling, etc without any push. Perhaps their parents still speak with them in their native tongue. So the child grows up being bilingual or multi-lingual. This is a skill they pick up naturally by their circumstances and surroundings. I think being multi-lingual makes a person more versatile by default professionally and in every day life. This is a great thing for our future generations.
     
  2. dangolegators

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    Fair enough.
     
  3. okeechobee

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    I would assume most legal immigrants are in the child bearing age group (without looking) and thus it makes sense that their offspring will learn English simply by attending school.
     
  4. dangolegators

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    No, our species originated from the Garden of Eden. And Adam and Eve were white.
     
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  5. okeechobee

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    What does the confederate flag represent? A failed government of what? 4 years? A tragic time in American history? A loser? To each their own. I mean, there are still UT fans that show up to the Florida game, but considering the divisive nature of the confederate flag, why would you feel a need to fly it? I don't think it's in the same league with a religion, for example, which has existed for thousands of years. So I don't agree with it being analogous to the topic at hand.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    Has anyone outlawed people displaying the confederate flag? I don't like it but I'm not calling for it to be outlawed. In fact I prefer being able to identify those who display it as idiots. Saves time.
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    I met a guy at UF who was Sikh. He wore a turban and never shaved his beard. Over a couple year period, he left his family's faith, and once he did, he stopped wearing his turban, got a haircut and shaved his beard. His turban was religious and not a political statement having anything to do with how he felt about America. Do you think Americans who are Orthodox Jews are failing to conform because they wear a kippah or yarmulke or do you see some distinction there?
     
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  8. archigator_96

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    Hey now! What do you have against Bo and Luke? Did they do donuts in your yard or something?
     
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  9. ursidman

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    I agree and I think it’s been shown to increase the synapse connections in developing kids much like learning music* One of my grands is learning Romanian in the house so he can speak it to his other grandparents who live in Bucharest.

    *Sadly I must have few synaptic connections as I am mono-lingual and can’t play an instrument. The struggle continues
     
  10. uftaipan

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    Did they have Neanderthal and/or Denosovian DNA at that time, or did it miracle itself into our genetics at some later point?
     
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  11. uftaipan

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    I actually agree with this.
     
  12. thelouisianagator

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    I'm torn on this as part of me agrees with it and part of me disagrees. I'll admit one of the sore spots for me is that I don't really have any heritage. My mom's side is Scottish and Irish and my dad's side was English (grandfather's family) and Italian (grandmother's family). And when I say Italian my great grandmother on that side came over on the boat and from what I know only spoke Italian. My grandmother could make homemade spaghetti and meatballs and I can still smell that distinct smell from her kitchen. To this day I've never had anything like it. My mom says she still has the recipe but isn't a good enough cook to even try, lol.

    My point is even with my grandmother on my dad's side she only spoke English. Right after they came to the U.S. they first lived in New York but then moved to Louisiana. They also told their kids to only speak English and drop the Italian. Neither my dad, uncle or my grandmother spoke any Italian. And my dad and uncle were both given completely American sounding names to assimilate. Outside of some food traditions and recipes they largely threw away their heritage.

    I guess in some ways that makes me bitter with the Hispanics. My family was forced to throw away their heritage completely, but Hispanics aren't.

    On the other hand, I think some of what was said above is how it should be. The problem I see with immigrants now can be shown in the hyphenated American stuff. Hispanic-American, African-American, Asian-American. The original culture is valued above being an American. I don't really care if some American who is Hispanic wants to keep their culture. But being Hispanic should be secondary to being American. That's the whole point of immigration. Yes you can have your roots but they are secondary to being an American. Part of me is glad my ancestors placed more importance on being an American than the culture they came from. If your culture is more important than being an American than why come to America to begin with? Stay in your home country with your culture.

    And yes I believe starting with the immigrants who come over, they should immediately start to learn English. And I think English should be pushed both outside and inside the house as much as possible. Sure there are many immigrants who try to learn English or do learn English. But there are far too many who don't even bother to try to learn English at all. And while immigrants can keep their culture, I think it should be secondary to being an American. And they should at least attempt to assimilate as much as they can.
     
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  13. mikemcd810

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    Can we also get a ruling that people who move to Tampa from New York or Boston have to immediately start rooting for the Rays, Bucs, and Lightning? They need to assimilate to local culture.
     
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  14. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Same as how I feel when someone displays Obama/biden bumper stickers. SMH
    Or that coexist sticker….lol, what a shamockery.
     
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    Maybe I'm mistaken but Obama/Biden bumper sticks do not represent support even implicitly of an armed insurrection against the government of the United States that resulted in the deaths of over 600,000 Americans as does the Confederate battle flag and by the way the purpose of the rebellion was preservation of the institution of hereditary chattel slavery. Perhaps the tragic irony is that a majority of Confederate soldiers who died on behalf of the movement didn't even own slaves.
     
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  16. rivergator

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    I'm still wondering how you can justify claiming that immigrants who settle in the US shouldn't wear a turban, when it's part of their religion. How about a yarmulke? Is that American enough?
     
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  17. sierragator

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    Much easier for some to believe the fairy tale that someone or something snapped their fingers and it all just appeared in an instant. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Gator515151

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    Am I asking anybody to outlaw speaking Spanish or wearing a turban? Once again the mention of the confederate flag was nothing more than an example. Displaying a confederate flag is no more offensive than wearing a piece African clothing because it is part of your heritage but you guys fly off the handle at the mention of a confederate flag.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Uh, no. The Confederate flag was a flag flying over an Army that existed for only 4 years and then only because a political entity wanted to maintain slavery and were concerned that the rest of the country wouldn't allow them to do it. Wearing clothing related to your religion or long-standing culture is not even remotely the same thing.

    Notice also that the issue is not wearing green on St. Patrick's Day but rather clothing worn by Sikhs or Africans that upsets you.
     
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  20. Gator515151

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    I never wore green on St Patrick's day in my life unless it was unintentionally, I always thought it was kinda silly.