Birthright Citizenship

And the 2nd Amendment was for militias.

Probably the main reason Trump won't do anything about this is because he'll get a payoff from countries that want it to continue - China, Russia and probably some in the Mideast.

Sure, he might do an EO, knowing that it will fail and generate a fake fight for him, but you have to remember; he's working for himself, not the USA.

Prepare to realize that you got conned again. Get your excuses ready.

 

This is as dumb as arguing that 2nd amendment only covers muskets, because that was likely their intentions at the time it was written….

 

He should just EO it. That’ll fix it

 

Why should your family heritage matter?

It matters where you are born because you are under the legal jurisdiction of the country in which you are born. You can't claim that laws don't apply to you because your family is from another country.

Well, given that there was no such thing as an illegal immigrants in those days, it clearly wasn't for them as every immigrant was legal. But, as pointed out multiple times, if the intent of the 14th amendment was to be construed narrowly only to slaves, why no mention of slavery or slaves? Until you can answer that question, the rest of this is not important.

Who cares about the Constitution anyways, right?

 

Rule by decree? His worshippers would love that.

 

I think I understand the org intent of birthright citizenship, but I don't like it now. Never have.

 

There would be parades and big ratings, the best ratings. Everyone would like it, the best people would come up to him with tears in their eyes and say “Sir, thank you for correcting the Constitution”

 

Interesting.

Undermine the constitution and constitutional authority, bc you don't like how an Amendment is written and therefore applied...

Conservatives have always held steadfast to strict construction, and here you are, advocating to toss the very anchor of our nation, rule of law, and civilization, in order to circumvent an existing, duly adopted Amendment, and/or the constitutional requirement to undo it according to the same stringent requirements needed to adopt it.

Do you even hear yourself?

 

Why should the location of the birth of your great-grandmother be more important than your location for you? My great-grandmother was from Ireland during British rule. My grandmother was given US citizenship at birth. Then, a series of citizens were born with citizenship. So what should I have instead of American citizenship? British citizenship? Irish (since they came from what would become the Republic of Ireland later)?

 

Immigration is exceptionally important for our country as it serves as our lifeblood. We had just a 1% population increase in 2023 and immigration accounted for 84% of it. We would be a population in decline without recent immigrants and that’s not a place we want to be as a country.

As for using the other countries as a benchmark, we must be doing something right as we have the best economy out of that group.

I’m in favor of doing away with birthright citizenship but only if we significantly increase the number of immigrants we intake per year. Otherwise we’re just shooting ourselves in the foot. I’d make it dual citizenship with the child taking both the father’s and mother’s citizenship.

 

Birthright citizenship is held up by the 14th Amendment and the Wong Kim Ark SCOTUS decision. Ark was a Chinese kid born in the US to two parents here illegally under the Chinese Exclusion Act. The SCOTUS ruled Ark to be a US citizen. Trump can't simply EO away a Constitutional Amendment backed by a Supreme Court decision.

The SCOTUS could overturn Ark. But that won't be very easy.

 

I'm sorry, if you are born here, you are an American PERIOD.

If you mother and father are not and are here illegally, they got to go.

 

Conservatives are steadfast with “strict construction(constitution)? Tossing the very anchor of our nation? Did you just awaken from a 10 year coma to make this never-Trumper argument?

I assume you are taking this stance because you enjoy your birthright citizenship. You aren’t fooling anyone with that self preservation nonsense. I almost hope the SCOTUS sides with the administration on this one, just for the “leopards eating faces” lulz. But I doubt the political winds would allow for such a turnabout.

 

Cool, so when your mother is citizen of a country other than the one that you live in, she grants that citizenship on to another person. Then, that person has a kid, who gets the citizenship? I am three generations removed from the UK, from a part of the world that isn't even the UK anymore, and your plan would have me as a UK citizen.