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Biden's Legacy

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Nov 22, 2024 at 9:28 AM.

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  1. Nov 23, 2024 at 9:04 AM #61
    CaptUSMCNole

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    The thing no one has really touched on that will likely define Biden’s legacy is how bad his mental decline really was and to what level his Admin went to hide it from the public. I’m sure we are going to start hearing about it from the from some Democrats to explain why Trump was able to win.
     
  2. Nov 23, 2024 at 9:20 AM #62
    OklahomaGator

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    I would bet that once Trump is sworn in and all the D's in the current administration start to write their books we will start hearing a lot of stories.
     
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  3. Nov 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM #63
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    Maybe so but it still doesn't change the fact that Trump's policies during his last year in office set Biden up for failure with the withdrawal. Keep in mind that it wasn't Biden who negotiated directly with the Taliban while denying the then government of Afghanistan with a seat at the table; it wasn't Biden who forced the government of Afghanistan to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners including some of whom were designated as terrorists and number of whom returned to fight against the government of Afghanistan after they were released and that while Biden was also culpable for the same error in judgment it was Trump while he was in office and against the advice of his own generals reduced the number of US troops in Afghanistan below the number necessary for an orderly withdrawal. Also keep in mind that Trump while he was in office agreed to a date certain specifically May 31, 2021 for the withdrawal of all US troops from Afghanistan. Biden changed the date to August 31st.
     
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  4. Nov 23, 2024 at 10:18 AM #64
    g8trdoc

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    Wrong the fact is Kamala was the worst candidate to ever run for President. She’s was too liberal. She is a typical grifter. If you run a southern blue dog democrat you win.
     
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  5. Nov 23, 2024 at 11:24 AM #65
    CaptUSMCNole

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    Biden could have withdrawn from the deal at any point. He could have also chosen to try and renegotiate the deal. He did not.

    Biden was always going to pull out of Afghanistan, whether Trump had made a deal with the Taliban or not. This is something that people really need to accept. This was one of his stated policy goals for a long time. At the end of the day, the disaster happened on his watch and fair or not, a leader is responsible for everything that happens or fails to happen on their watch.
     
  6. Nov 23, 2024 at 11:33 AM #66
    ColoradoNoVaGator

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    It’s hard to get 10% for the big guy when your power wanes.

    thus his desire to remain in office
     
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