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Biden signs executive order drastically tightening border

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Jun 4, 2024.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    He’s pandering to independents.
     
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  2. AzCatFan

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    The ACLU had already said they will sue. I ask again, by what right and power does Biden have to unilaterally change asylum law by EO? Congress passes a law, different story. But this EO is unlikely to take effect before the election as it will wind its way through the courts.
     
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  3. okeechobee

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    China trade tariffs. Check.
    Temporary ban on people flying in from Covid infested lands. Check.
    Closing the southern border. Check.

    10 years from now (or sooner):
    National ban on all gender affirming treatments in minors. Check.
     
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  4. gatorpa

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    All the more evidence it’s for show.
     
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  5. slayerxing

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    trump torpedoed his own parties border bill for political points. He and his cultists have absolutely zero credibility in general and even less on this issue.
     
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  6. mikemcd810

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    You'd think with how good is he at spinning things and taking credit, he could have not blocked the bill, but then taken credit for it getting passed - something like "I'm not even President and I managed to get this done, not Joe Biden. Imagine what I can get done if you make me President again."

    But then again, it was never about fixing the border - it's about making the border a political issue.
     
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  7. 92gator

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    Perhaps you should read a little further, about what's actually in the bill. You might have a little more criticism.
     
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  8. 92gator

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    It was a garbage bill.

    The 'pubs' who backed it, woulda' been run outta' town on a $#!@#$ rail.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    What?? Democrats don't play games with politics. Only Republicans do that.
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Well yeah, it would be insincere, unconvincing, and unbelievable--a transparent political stunt to save his free-falling ass from losing in november.

    IOW, the second he did win, IF he did, whatever actual positive thing he did vis a vis teh border would be immediately undone, by the very same pen with which it was done.

    You know...that pen he couldn't find, and pretended not to have, when he first tried to blame the pubs for his inability to do--or should I say, undo, since he undid Trump's EO's to begin with.

    Y'all are either dumb as a box of rocks, or think the American voting public is.

    ...and given y'all's Gator pedigree, I think it quite clear that it is the latter.

    Now would you please be so kind as to stop insulting our intelligence upon the same Gator pedigree, with the foolish nonsense that Doh! Biden is trying to sell upon the same voting public that voted him in... (who also fell for the "magic bat shitting on a wet market in Wuhan..." joke).
     
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  11. 92gator

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    To be clear, I was saying those pubs who pimped the BS bill, woulda been run out of town by their own party. Us. The ones who aren't falling for the same stupid shit establishment pubs been peddling for decades, which is what ushered Trump to the WH in '16--i.e.--decades of "pubs" campaigning conservative...and legislating flaming libtard.
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    This thread is hilarious!! Republicans scream (rightfully so) that there is a border crisis on our Southern Border (because the migrants are able to step in the country and cry “ASYLUM,” and then they stay for years until their court case is heard.

    A BIPARTISAN bill — one of if not THE strongest protections at our border ever negotiated — was negotiated and agreed to help solve the crisis, until Trump dictated that Republicans (including the bill’s sponsor) could not agree to it. So that failed.

    MAGA continues to scream “border crisis!!!”

    When it was reminded that the Pubs blocked the passage of a bipartisan bill … because they followed the dictate of Trump (the guy who always looks out for everyone other than himself) … they screamed that Biden had the power to just enter the relief via executive fiat, and they roundly criticize Biden for not doing so.

    Biden has enough and signs an executive order — effectively succumbing (thankfully in this instance) to the political stalemate created by Trump to further his election fear-porn platform.

    MAGA bitches because Biden had the temerity to do what they wanted, and in this instance, what was needed for our country.

    MAGA hypocrisy has no bounds.
     
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  13. ajoseph

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    Every MAGA mouthpiece has been shouting that the border crisis needs IMMEDIATE attention. Congress has been giving it the immediate attention it deserves. Bipartisan legislation was approved. Months ago. But Trump didn’t want it solved so he blocked it. The Republican sponsor had to tuck tail and vote against the bill he wrote.

    And so Biden did what you all said he should do. And now? It’s pandering for votes? The MAGA posturing just doesn’t match the reality the timeline.
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    This is one of his top-3 battle cries. He doesn’t want it neutered.
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    Your major issue here is that your boy Pedo Joe is the one who undid Trump era immigration policy, which led to the disaster at the border and a situation where we have millions of asylum applicants here that we will never be able to properly vet. Biden made that happen by reversing Trump policy. I don't think he's pandering now though. In the classic sense, at least. I think his hand was forced, because the situation has spun way out of control and there were too many people noticing. But he knew that was going to happen when he changed the policy in 2021.
     
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  16. ajoseph

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    He ain’t “my boy.” I’m not a Biden fan. And I didn’t agree with his full-throated reversal of Trump’s immigration policy. And time has demonstrated it was ill-conceived. However, in terms of effective leadership, Biden came to realize he erred and rather than double-down, he took steps to reverse course. He left it to Congress, and when Congress failed, he took action by Executive Order — the same steps that the MAGA talking heads screamed.

    I truly don’t see how anyone from that side should be complaining about the Order. The need for the Order? Sure, that’s fair game. But the Order itself? The bitching is pure hypocrisy.
     
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  17. G8tas

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    Biden should reverse the order immediately!
     
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  19. slayerxing

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    With the stuff you post I don’t have to do anything - we’re all well aware of your intelligence.
     
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  20. gatorjo

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    Does this make you more inclined to vote for Joe Biden....given that all that that Trump guy did on immigration was for show?