Biden Dividing Again…What a nasty speech

Maybe they don't have access to the loudest microphone on the planet, but I would counter that those politicians' messages are hugely amplified by ALL the cable news networks, online news publications, twitter and the other social channels. So it's disingenuous to imply that these messages aren't being heard loud and clear - and that they are not divisive. I know the original point is about Biden and his speech, just weighing in on a few posts above.

Anyway, one either believes the election was stolen or not. Overwhelming evidence - including Trump's own words admitting he would declare victory no matter the outcome - suggest it was not stolen. Yet MAGA politicians continue to harp on the Big Lie rile up their base, and wouldn't ya know it... the base buys it hook line and sinker. Why? Money and power.

As I said in another thread. We have to start with 'truth'. If we can't agree on truth, and the public is continually fed outlandish conspiracy garbage, we are all truly screwed.

 

Is this your 'unifying thread?'

 

You blast liberals 24/7 here and then complain that other people want the country divided but you want it unified?

 

Yeah, you posted a thread about Ryan this morning to show everybody how open you are. If you posted more threads like that, you might have some credibility, but posting it today, after you making such a big deal about how you are not divisive, it's just performative BS on your part. And no, I very much don't believe you would actually vote for Ryan if you lived in Ohio. You are far too partisan for that. You prove it every day on this message board.

 

Agreed, the buck stops with him. Thing is, there is a massive amount of people in this country who believe democracy is truly at stake because of election deniers. And this is what he was calling out during this particular speech before the midterms. Not really the place and time for him to do a unity speech anyway when he's stumping for his party.

I'm sure I'll get the requisite c'mon man's and 'funny' ratings from the few I'd expect, but there really is no denying the prevalence of the Big Lie and the role it's playing in elections all over our country.

The logic is this. Election deniers are elected into positions to which they hold power, the will of the people will be compromised. A candidate for Governor in Wisconsin said TWO days ago "Republicans will never lose another election in Wisconsin if I win."

I'm sorry, but that is F*CKED UP and dangerous. That's not America. That's fascism. That's the beginning of the end of this great country.

Maybe you're not seeing it because you admittedly don't watch a lot of news, but this is real - and it's happening.

But again to the original point, not really the time for Biden to do a unity speech anyway. The midterms are in a few days, he's calling out the dangers of what I just outlined above. It's real. And good for him for confronting lies and misinformation.

 

I see no commercials regarding COVID policies in Arizona from either side. Very few about education other than CRT is bad. No explanation of what CRT is, or why it's bad. Just simplistic propaganda. See plenty of border ads, and from the Rs, they are all fear porn showing that brown people are bad. Also plenty of election denial propaganda. There's a touch of inflation thrown in too.

But you are telling me my eyes are lying to me and that COVID is a major issue? People are voting for education and inflation policies over election denial and brown people are bad? If this is true, then why are the ads I see tell me at the core of the Rs is election denial first, brown people bad second, inflation third, and nothing else beyond that?

 

That poll from that speech in Philly does indicate that, yes. But one poll on one speech does not paint the full picture. As another poster, I think ajoseph stated, Biden did try to unite when he first got into office. The olive branch was rebuffed. Since then, he has taken the gloves off against MAGA. But MAGA doesn't equate to all Republicans, right?

I guess it comes down to the delineation; does MAGA = Republican Party or does MAGA = fringe right extremists (election deniers, insurrectionists, proud boys, etc...)?

If you believe he's attacking ALL of the Republican Party, then I understand how you'd feel that he is a divider. If you agree he was attacking a minority fringe of the party, he is not. He clearly stated in that speech that he was not attacking the whole, btw.

 

I am telling what people are voting on November 8th. You can keep telling yourself it is 2020 and Trump. Yes Covid and keeping kids out of school/recommending kids take a shot they do not need to this day is a major issue (you get to own this as it is what you support). You lose even more credibility when you say there are ads that say "brown people bad". Please show me one single ad that says "brown people bad". The propaganda has had your for a while and it is strong.

The red tsunami is coming regardless of whether you want to acknowledge people will be voting on the disaster biden and the dems have been the last two years.

 

Bristling with rage, Biden issues ‘one final warning’ to Putin. Oh wait, it wasn’t one final warning to Putin. It was one final warning to voters to get it right.

 

Simple thought exercise. You see two Hispanic men, look just like each other. Could even be brothers. One is a citizen. The other, undocumented. They are dressed the same. Can you tell which is the citizen and which is undocumented?

Now, a little empathy exercise. Pretend you're the Hispanic citizen. You're watching TV and the commercials show people who look just like you with the claims they are invading the country, going to make the US a third world country, and are only here to commit heinous crimes like rape and murder. Now, tell me these commercials aren't racist and don't portray brown people are bad.

I'm sure the economy plays a part for some voters. And yes, it's probably why the Rs retake the House and possibly the Senate. But the messages I see daily from the Rs revolve around the stolen election and brown people bad messages far more than the economy is mentioned.

 

You’ve always been reasonable, it’s noticed and appreciated.

 

Here’s the Pew Research Center’s results on issues and their relative importance this midterm. I think one thing to keep in mind when looking at these results is that the middle swing voters are what is important and they are not separately represented here.

The economy remains the top issue for voters in the midterms


I think people like Q want the upcoming Republican wins to be a wider social referendum on what people want than it truly will be. It comes down to the incumbent party almost always loosing seats at the midterms plus “it’s the economy, stupid.”

 

you mean they got it wrong in 2020?

 

You must have me confused with another poster . Ha! - Thanks