Are we being pushed into another Civil War?

oh, that’s right. I forgot. If there weren’t double standards, you libbies would have no standards at all. My Bad.

 

Good for you. You should lead others of your political persuasion down that path of enlightenment . The .22 cal is by far the most useful weapon you shot that day for your probable needs (home protection) for the very reason you think it’s not useful: you can stay on target with little difficulty. If you don’t own one you should buy it and train on operating in total/near total darkness.

But I noticed you didn’t claim ownership of any firearm in your post.

 

First, as my post on this poll, and the link itself, made pretty clear, the pollster asked if he accepted a bribe. The poll was clearly a hypothetical.

But to answer your unrelated question: 100 % absolutely yes there is evidence. Some of the sources of the evidence come from Joe Biden’s lips, photographs, public records, Hunter Biden‘s laptop, and multiple witnesses, some of whom have testified under oath. In addition, there is evidence of audio recordings of Joe Biden.

 

.25 was a typo on my part. .22 cal kills more people than any other caliber gun. I have seen some assertions that .22 has killed more than all other calibers combined.

https://www.gunpolicy.org/documents...t-rifles-kill-more-people-than-any-other/file

IMO, the .22 is best for most home defense because of the following

1. Training is cheap as ammo is very inexpensive and almost always available. I used to be able to buy a brick off .22 (500 rounds) for around $10. Now they are about $30. That is about $.06 a round. 12 gauge is about $.80 a round. 5.56 is about $.80 a round too.
2. Weight. A .22 AR weighs around 5lbs. Typical 12 gauge is around 7lbs (the heavier the better).
3. Recoil. You already know this. Next time you go to the range, try and rapid shoot a .22 pistol at 15 yards and compare that to 9mm. Your grouping will tell you why this matters.
4. Barrel length. .22 AR typical barrel length is 16 inches. Typical 12 gauge is 28 inches. That really matters in home defense if you are walking your home in fire ready position. Trying to maneuver a 12 gauge in closed quarters is difficult. You have a 12 gauge, take your unloaded gun at night and walk around your home in ready position and you will see the difficulties you will encounter. You do not have those same difficulties with a shorter barrel. A pistol is ideal obviously.

Here is the bottom line, that even your instructor will agree. When in a gun fight, it’s not how big your gun is, it’s how many rounds are on target. A 12 gauge is a great home defense gun for well trained, strong and heavy people. But when you are in panic mode, and moving, IMO the .22 AR is much more prone to protect you. Caveat…rimfire .22 have a higher tendency to jam. So you need to be trained to deal with it.

my best friend of 40 years is lifelong cop (now retired), was in charge of his large department’s SWAT team and an instructor…and he has a .22 AR as one his primary home defense guns, primarily because his 120 lb wife is a beast on it. He is very well armed. He doesn’t even own a shotgun.

Every gun has its pros and cons. Whatever gun you choose, just make sure you train regularly.

 

It’s starts on the Disney channel, but no worries, the Navy has that well under control.

 

I have quite a few liberal friends, and a few of them have guns. I also have an equal, if not more number of conservative friends and a lot more of them have guns. I really wish guns weren’t a liberal conservative debate. Most of my liberal friends had purchased guns after I have taken them shooting. My very first date with my wife, while we both were in law school, was at the gun range. She had never shot a gun before, and she absolutely loved it. So much so that she eventually married me after lots of begging on my part.

I shoot quite a bit, but I am by no means any type of expert. At 10 yards, which is likely longer than any shot you would take in your house, I can have a consistent 3” grouping with my .22 pistol firing at a fast rate of fire. With my .22 rifle I can have similar results at 15 yards. There is a reason they use .22 caliber for the Olympics….accuracy!

And you were right about one thing, which is often overlooked for home defense, you are never going to put on ear protection. When you shoot a shotgun in your home without ear protection, you are going to become disoriented because of the percussion. You are also going to be temporarily blinded by muzzle flash if you’re firing at night. You can put a silencer on a .22 with the right stamps, and you will have a virtual silent and invisible gun.