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Antisemitism in the US

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Oct 30, 2023.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Consider me unkind to a concept - Jewishness - which has meant everything and nothing for 2,000 years.
     
  2. oragator1

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    Trumped joked about nazi ovens
     
  3. oragator1

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    One of the incumbent squad members, Bowman (fire alarm guy), is getting trounced in his primary tonight. He denied the Oct 7th atrocities among other things so moderates ran a moderate candidate who is pro Israel. It’s Westchester NY so the district is disproportionately minority and Jewish, and the Jews apparently turned out. They were reportedly 36 percent of early votes despite only being 9 percent of the district.
    Even if it’s not a fully representative district, I truly hope Dems get the message. Ceding this issue to the republicans could very well cost them the election.
     
  4. gator_lawyer

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    Ceding what issue? Biden has bent over backwards to kiss Israel's ass, even as Netanyahu has disrespected us.
     
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    Dems already largely support Israel even though Israel tells Dems to f off and while the Israeli government is full MAGA. It is smart politically overall for Dems to support Israel but it takes a lot of discipline to support a nation that hates you and works hard to undermine you. And it may kill Dems with young voters who have a hard time accepting what is happening in Gaza, not unreasonably
     
  6. oragator1

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    Well, that’s not how he’s perceived.

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...en said earlier this month,even if it does so.

    but the other point I was making is that I was thinking back to 2012. Republicans ran a relative moderate in Romney, Obama wasn’t terribly popular and Romney had a decent shot. But he lost in no small part because republicans around the country kept saying and doing idiotic things, and the Dems painted the whole party as nuts. Things like “Put a pill between her legs”, “legitimate rape can’t cause pregnancy” etc. Biden is facing that right now, he is being tagged with the left and all the things happening around the country. Getting guys like Bowman out of the public eye is a good thing.
     
  7. gator_lawyer

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    I can't argue with that point. Although, Bowman is still in office until January 2025. ;)
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Israelis love Trump over Biden by 14 points. Enough said
     
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  9. oragator1

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    Meanwhile in Canada, another synagogue was vandalized. Had windows smashed in.


    Toronto synagogue pelted with stones, glass panels shattered
     
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    I just love how calm this guy was. It was almost like “whatever, I’ve got chunks of stool older than you”.

     
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    President Trump will fix it.
     
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    Again, a professor.

     
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    I could post these all day every day, but hopefully the point has been made. I will stop, barring something major.
    I continued with these for a while to counter the argument that somehow I am the extremist on this, but I’m not. It’s real, and history is replete with examples of what happens when annti-semitism is ignored or passively accepted, which was my ultimate aim. It needs light.

    But I will leave it with this.

     
  17. Gatorrick22

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    Part of Obama's fundamental change... in action.
     
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    oragator1; what's with all the blue birds you keep posting?
     
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  20. oragator1

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    I don’t think it’s so much about people protesting, or even being anti Israeli policy. It’s about what so many of those protests became. Much of what happened in many of them is not anything a business would want to be associated with.
    Imagine you hire a guy and he turns out to be the kid gatekeeping Jewish kids from parts of UCLA’s campus. Or one of the geniuses who demanded meal card food while they sat in illegally at Columbia? Or someone at Penn yelling river to the sea with a keffiyeh on? Or someone praising Hamas? Or even one of the Jewish kids who beat up a kid at ucla?
    It’s a very different protest structure and societal consequence than in years past, but giving them the opportunity to explain their role is fair. Because on the flip side, someone who simply thinks Israel has bad foreign policy but who protested legally respectfully and lawfully should be praised for standing up for a cause, and shouldn’t be punished, especially long term. Just as someone who similarly stands up for Israel shouldn’t either.