Antisemitic rally touring Georgia

I’m not being silly. The Tea Party only had a few show up at their rallies at first, and they ended up taking over the Republican Party.

 

I believe Savannah also has a significant Jewish population.

 

I'm not really seeing the connection between the Tea Party and Nazis. I'm sure many people were sincere, but at it's heart, the Tea Party was a dishonest movement that ended up fleecing a lot of people.
But Nazis?

 

Of course, but people get murdered every day by evil people fom all walks and ideologies. These are evil terrible human trash. As are all murderers ...But I dont know if it is newsworthy outside of political score keeping.

Regardless, glad the number is tiny and I hope these people crawl back under the trailer they crawled out from under.

 

A lot of support? Using what metric exactly?

 

Wow. You simply keep missing the mark by a mile. You have united the board on knowing that though so that's good.

 

Wow, you really know how to piss everyone off. Congrats.

 

These morons keep showing in small numbers up on street corners in Maine, too

Punching Nazis in this situation is dumb and counter productive. Ignore them completely. Put them on page 5. We'll likely never completely rid ourselves of people with these misconceptions. Move on with your life. Anything more breathes life into their movement.

 

Then let me try to clear it up for you. When the Tea Party first started out it was only in small groups. They eventually turned into a national movement. These little Nazi demonstrations are starting off small but with the pro-Trump, pro-Putin, anti-democracy movement on the right it’s not unreasonable to think a national fascism movement might take hold. Look at the number of things Trump has been indicted for and he’s still the leading Republican candidate. Look at the things his followers in Congress are saying and trying to put into law. It’s not that hard.

 

Nobody ignored Trump and MAGA. I'd say the opposite happened and that furthers my point.

(To clarify, my post was about Nazis, not MAGA types - of which not all are Nazis.)

 

Agreed, but I've been trying to keep this on the topic of Nazis on US streets.

When they become part of the political process, they must be dealt with via political means.

On the street - they're best ingored.

 

Fair enough. But I do think they exercise a not insignificant influence, depending on how you analyze.

 

Any influence Nazis have within a political party should be recognized and handled within political / legal frameworks. That involves not punching Nazis at small gatherings as that would only draw more Nazis, bring more media attention, and attract more interest from any political party willing to garner votes from fringe elements (that may totally or partially overlap party ideology) to stay in power.

 

I generally agree except that I think that a lot of their appeal in US politics, and I am grouping them here with the Proud Boys and other militia types, is unchecked threats of violence. I'm not sure. I think about it a lot.

I just hate that as a culture, we seem to accept it without being too upset. I think that signals something bad about our culture, and worry we will look back years hence as missing an opportunity to stop something that by then is more entrenched and has perhaps metastasized to a point that is harder to contain. Look how much influence the Moms for Liberty, a/k/a Klanned Karenhood exercises, despite limited numbers, just through zeal, intensity, organization, dark dollars, and fear

 

GOP pols or group leaders evoking Hitler regularly lately. That and all the nativist and supremacist policy being espoused.

 

Again. Any metrics to back up terms like "regularly"?

There is not. Its hyperbolic at best.

Just like the communist talk from the right.

 

Don't get me wrong. I think it's A-OK to get upset about Nazis on the corner of your town square. It's disturbing as hell. And if they threaten or engage in violence, our legal system should swiftly deal with them.

I just don't agree with the idea of confronting them on the corner. I know you didn't advocate for it, but I often see people saying violence is required (punch-a-nazi) and my point is that is counter-productive in that environment. I'd wager most of those people are hoping and praying they get punched. Hell, even having conversations aren't productive. If there is any chance at making a mondern American Neo-Nazi change their opinion, it is never going to happen as the result of an interaction with a stranger.

I think part of a cohesive anti-Nazi strategy in America is to ignore these small local gatherings. I also realize it'll never happen because the angry liberals and the media are drawn like moths to a flame.