Another Alaska Airlines incident

Titanium is not stronger than stainless steel in all ways. It is lighter than stainless and more corrosion resistant (in oxidizing environments), of course. But there are several different ways to measure strength and durability, and it is not unusual for one metal to be better at one thing, and another to be better at another. Titanium is considered a fairly brittle material, meaning that it is more likely to fracture when it reaches its limit (versus other metals that bend). Then, of course, how the part is designed (thickness, reinforcement, etc.) can also have a large effect on when it fails.

 

Airbus should be eating Boeing’s lunch these days.

 

Boeing stock fall yet.

Now saying fasteners in plug fractured. Unk if poor fasteners, design or lose causing undue stress.

So now we have AA knowing they had something going on and now a Global fleet grounding.

 

Actually, Boeing's motto is when one door flies off, another door opens. Namely, the cockpit door. Boeing did not communicate this to the airlines. Apparently, Boeing thinks a lot of noise and wind will help the pilots' decision-making during an emergency.

Alaska flight incident reveals another feature Boeing didn't inform pilots about

 

imagine being in that head when that happened. are there o2 masks in the head?

and how in the world does the locked door intended to keep terrorists out blow out like that? perhaps they need to be vented to account for the pressure differential in the event something like that happens but venting would allow a terrorist to introduce a toxic gas or ?? through the vent. something nobody ever considered I guess.

 

Unreal!

 

This is not true. The decompression warnings were unrelated as verified by the NTSB. They also have a backup redundant system. More just an indication of the quality product Boeing is putting out with a brand new plane suffering multiple issues.

 

thanks, last I saw they were saying the alarms were on that door/plug.

Boeing certainly doesn’t have that luster anymore.

 

Good article on the subject, actually written four years ago following the 737 Max 8 crashes in 2019 which resulted in the loss of 346 lives.
The 1997 merger that paved the way for the Boeing 737 Max crisis

In a clash of corporate cultures, where Boeing’s engineers and McDonnell Douglas’s bean-counters went head-to-head, the smaller company won out. The result was a move away from expensive, ground-breaking engineering and toward what some called a more cut-throat culture, devoted to keeping costs down and favoring upgrading older models at the expense of wholesale innovation. Only now, with the 737 indefinitely grounded, are we beginning to see the scale of its effects.

“The fatal fault line was the McDonnell Douglas takeover,” says Clive Irving, author of Jumbo: The Making of the Boeing 747. “Although Boeing was supposed to take over McDonnell Douglas, it ended up the other way around.” ​

 

Boeing has another bad day. The U.S. Secretary of State had to look for alternate transportation when his 737 broke down. (Maybe he should have kept the old 757 that previous SoS used.)

Secretary Antony Blinken’s Boeing 737 out of Davos had a critical failure. He had to switch planes | CNN Business

 

So I wonder what the calculus is at boeing regarding how many people have to die before they make substantive changes? I'm sure it is a closely guarded corporate secret.

 

I'm sure that corporate scapegoating is going on right now at Boeing headquarters. Don't worry--corporate bonuses will be handed out to all surviving executives, if that's what it takes to clean up this mess. They may even have to come up with a few new corporate buzzwords as they circle back to a strategic excellence paradigm with a new cadence in their daily meetings. Is that substantive enough? Or were you expecting a real change?

 

Actual change, with safe, reliable aircraft. Kind of like when Boeing still had a good reputation. Expecting too much, but travel is interesting, fun, sometimes necessary and the traveling public would like to be around a while.

 

A 737 takes off or lands every 5.5 seconds. 1/4 of all commercial aircraft are 737’s.
The max has had issues for sure, and Boeing needs some serious lessons learned, but some of the conversation is over the top.

 

Just when you thought you could escape the 737's problems by flying a discount airline in India, this happens! You know things are not going well when a flight attendant slips you a note that says (in capital letters) DO NOT PANIC not once, but twice. A man was trapped in the bathroom for nearly two hours on a Spicejet 737 when the bathroom refused to let him out. Flight attendants started slipping notes under the door to keep him from killing himself. The name "Spicejet" is believed to be a descriptor of the jet's bathroom scents, an unfortunate result of the exotic foods served on the airline. A spokesman for Boeing said the company may have gone too far in securing doors in the closed position as a result of the Air Alaska problem. Once the man was released from the bathroom, he was treated for psychiatric problems and given an airline voucher for free spicy naan bread for life.

Man Trapped In Airplane Bathroom Nearly Entire Flight Receives Napkin-Scrawled Apology From Cabin Crew

 

The wheels are coming off for Boeing.

Wheel Falls Off Boeing 757 During Takeoff At Atlanta Airport