An honest conversation about Abortion

The only way to live together is to move away? Seems like a contradiction to me. Federalism seems like the cause of most of our problems, not the solution.

 

This is a fair and understanding position.

I would just say...your life and all of our lives started at conception as a zygote with our own DNA and 46 chromosomes (separate from your mother and father). I don't think you really believe the government should have made choices in whether you were allowed to live or not. Medicine and Science are on the side of life. The complicated stuff is when the awful situations happen where the mother and/or child have threatening health issues during a pregnancy.

But the idea that a healthy mother should be able to kill her healthy child just because they do not want to deal with the consequences of creating a new life is morally reprehensible. Which is the same reason we have laws against reprehensible acts.

 

You seem to have missed the point. We can only live together by people moving away? Might as well call America a failure if that's true, and I'm not sure what places exist that perfectly align with anyone's values.

 

So the middle class or rich woman with an unwanted pregnancy and can afford the procedure before 15 weeks is in the clear? But the poor woman must carry to term? And face the financial consequences of being pregnant as well?

 

But laws forcing a woman to carry to birth is ok?
What if the prevailing thought was that women should be forced to have abortions? Laws too young or too old must abort. Genetic defect must abort etc
That's why the only person that should make the decision is the one carrying it

Hopefully technology will become advanced that a fetus at any stage can be easily removed and implanted in another or finished in a tube and adopted out but until then it should be woman and doctor.

 

State solution means wildly different laws, which create situations where states are pitted against each other and come into conflict. One state makes it illegal, and then tries to prosecute people who have a legal abortion in another state for example. Or make it illegal to give people information on how to get a legal abortion somewhere else. You are going to see more division on abortion now, not less.

 

As long as they are attached by an umbilical cord and inside the womb. They should have zero rights.

 

Oh, well that would require a functioning political system capable of solving problems. But if we had that we wouldnt be here to begin with.

 

Laws that don't cover outliers lead to gray areas. Gray areas in the law should be avoided. And poor women having abortions isn't the outlier. Over 40% of women who have abortions live below the poverty line. For those who can't afford to have the money available by week 15, they are being forced now to pay for the cost of bringing a child term, which too can be quite expensive. Even with medical insurance.

Want a 15 week ban, then abortion has to be covered by medical insurance and government payments. Otherwise, the law is unfair to the poor and uninsured.

 

I for one am concerned about what those who enact the law are saying. Next is a federal ban. Who saw that coming??

When rights are taken away, we all suffer.

 

Your rights end when another’s begins. You have no right to tell a women what to do with her body or her unborn child. End of story. The decision is her’s alone with advice from a doctor. There is no law that can be written that covers the millions of medical complications that can arise during pregnancy. It simply can’t be done and it shouldn’t be done. There is no compromise here. No middle ground. It’s the women’s right and nobody else’s. That’s it, get over it. Spend your time helping kids who are already born. Foster kids all over the country need help. You want to save a life, then open your house to a child in need.

 

Yes, the common ground is:

If you don’t like/believe in abortions, shut up and don’t get one.