Amendment to the NDAA to combat Nazi and white supremacist groups passes House.

Nobody cares.

 

Naturally, the party of White Supremacists and neo-Nazis would vote against this measure. Par for the course.

 

If they didn't want to be viewed as the party of White Supremacists and neo-Nazis, they wouldn't keep acting like the party of White Supremacists and neo-Nazis.

 

This is the funniest part:

Oh, mean like voter suppression in the name of preventing the non-existent voter fraud???

Seriously though, while this has good intentions, I can easily see how this could be weaponized against people you just don't like.

Also, there need to be very, very rigid definitions implemented to define "hate speech" vs expressing one's First Amendment rights. Otherwise, I agree with the intent of this bill.

 

They honestly couldn't care less about trivial stuff like insurrections, racism, white supremacists in the White House or police departments lol. One of their members literally just said "Who cares?" in this thread lol

 

I don't like white supremacist cops, so I kind of hope it is weaponized against racist cops

 

Would be a missed opportunity if they don't call it the "Some of Those That Work Forces Act"

 

I guess in my view, that would not be weaponized. To me weaponized is using against people with different view points just because they do not agree with yours, despite them not showing behaviors that are bigotted or racist.

Also, when the republicans retake congress, I could see this being "amended" to target all kinds of groups from enviromental protection to Greenpeace to you name it.

It is a kind of slippery slope here.

 

I mean, I'm on board if we got on that slope and there were only like 5 people qualified for military service after all is said and done.

 

D strategy here, and not a slam to you ncargat1, but you are articulating D self-own thinking. It’s a rational idea in a system with even a little integrity, but it just simply is no longer valid.

That is, not acknowledging that R’s will pillage at 110% capability, every single time. There is absolutely zero need from the R viewpoint for an opening of Pandora’s box. They like having them around, because D’s will brainbang themselves out of their own agenda with the concept. In reality, R’s need no precedent, loopholes, technicalities, or frankly, anything other than the exact minimum power numbers.

Within 10 seconds of gaining that exact minimum power necessary to jam through the most extreme items on the agenda, R’s will do exactly that.

D’s, as always, self-neuter by insisting that the opponent who just savagely sack-kicks them at every step should be accommodated and reasoned with. R’s straight up tell you that D’s are enemies, saboteurs, literal evil, child traffickers, and whatever even-more-heinous descriptors they read on 8kun. They literally run on hints or sometimes plainly overt messages of jailing, torturing, and execution of political foes.

D’s elect Bidens, whose main platform plank was “unity.” And then they negotiate themselves right out of the entire agenda. R’s never give a nanometer. No need. D’s will McGruber themselves asap. Who stops 99% of all D actions: Sinema and Manchin. R’s literally don’t have to get involved.

DJT will nakedly run as a totalitarian this time. He already did twice, but it was quasi-covert. Even then “Lock her up” is the overarching platfform. This time he will go farther. Hillary is MIA, so that ain’t gonna work. I predict he will have an entire list, and this time will openly pledge to send them to Gitmo for execution. That is the preferred model of justice for the Qrowd, which has basically been melded into Cult 45. The Vinn diagram is almost a circle at this point.

Point being that this fear of retaliation is demonstrably irrational.
They are going to enact every single wet dream the second they have the power. If anything, D’s only realistic option is to go equally scorched Earth instead of perpetual voluntarily weakling.

The whole SCOTUS debacle sums up modern D’s. R’s simply refused to seat one until they had the power, and then crammed yet another one in in weeks using the 100% opposite reasoning from the first. D’s reaction: Oh dear, don’t mention “stacking”….imagine what R’s might do!!!

 

That song is as relevant today as it was 30 years ago. Love me some Rage.

 

30 years of entertainment too when new generations of meatheads discover they have extremely left-wing politics

 

Discover, Jeez it's right in the name. I find those clowns funny as well. Looking at those 90's insults to the original Woodstock and seeing those crowds going off to RATM makes me wonder just how many became what they hated at the time.

 

Even the examples given in the Newsweek article attributed to democrats cited instances OUTSIDE of uniformed officers and said they were extremely rare. (Am I reading that correctly?)

If voter fraud is a problem that doesnt realy exist, it seems the same argument can be made here.

I honestly dont know the metrics here.

I assume this was added to the NDAA so one side could say... "Look! Their racist! They didnt vote for this! "

Just like I assume cons want to say " look! They hate democracy! They voted against stopping voter fraud! "

It's all a game to win votes.

How are some still unaware of how this all works?

 

At this point I don't know that it matters if the military wants to chase ghosts. Given all the fuss about it one would think the problem is so ingrained only white supremacists consider joining the military or they are converted after enlistment.

The armed services have been on a self destructive path for some time now as I see it.
With Few Able and Fewer Willing, U.S. Military Can’t Find Recruits

These are tough times for military recruiting. Almost across the board, the armed forces are experiencing large shortfalls in enlistments this year — a deficit of thousands of entry-level troops that is on pace to be worse than any since just after the Vietnam War. It threatens to throw a wrench into the military’s machinery, leaving critical jobs unfilled and some platoons with too few people to function.

Covid-19 is part of the problem. Lockdowns during the pandemic have limited recruiters’ ability to forge bonds face to face with prospects. And the military’s vaccine mandate has kept some would-be troops away.
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But longer-term demographic trends are also taking a toll. Less than a quarter of young American adults are physically fit to enlist and have no disqualifying criminal record, a proportion that has shrunk steadily in recent years. And shifting attitudes toward military service mean that now only about one in 10 young people say they would even consider it.

To try to counter those forces, the military has pushed enlistment bonuses as high as $50,000, and is offering “quick ship” cash of up to $35,000 for certain recruits who can leave for basic training in 30 days. To broaden the recruiting pool, the service branches have loosened their restrictions on neck tattoos and other standards. In June, the Army even briefly dropped its requirement for a high school diploma, before deciding that was a bad move and rescinding the change.​

 

“Less than a quarter of young American adults are physically fit to enlist and have no disqualifying criminal record, a proportion that has shrunk steadily in recent years.”

Wow!

 

Yet we have people itching to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. Then there are those that scream we need more gays, we need more transgenders, we need more women without regards to the main function of a nations military and all are eligible for any task the military requires from special ops to infantry. Not everyone has a right to join the military and the military is highly selective in who they will accept. Given that criteria I see this business of chasing white supremacists as nothing more than a goat rodeo.

How to Handle the 2022 Changes in Military Recruitment Screening

 

No they aren't lol, and they've been consistently lowering the standards since the Iraq war.