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Alien Enemies Act - Trump Defies 9 - 0 Suprme Court Ruling

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    what do you think is going to happen to the migrant population when they can no longer report crimes to the police out of fear of having their status checked and whisked off to a prison somewhere?

    1. they will quit reporting crimes..bad guys win
    2. they will become much more desperate in their attempts to avoid arrest or even questioning leading to more violence - good guys lose

    yet you pretend to care about violence when the detained is proven, documented here, to not be gang affiliated at all.

    misinformation is strong with you, and it is willful ignorance as it is spelled out by many here before me
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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  3. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    link? or retraction
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    the words cruel and unusual punishment come to mind..can't remember quite where I heard that term before..maybe Bill could help

    of course they aren't covered by the constitution in his world so what would the bill of rights matter?
     
  5. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    First of all if you're illegal you probably should be afraid to report crimes. Its not smart for "criminals" to call the police. Im all for illegal immigrants who haven't committed any crimes to become citizens in some form or another but thats not the case right now. So they are illegal and they should be scared to call the police. Its not supposed to be amazing to come in here and live illegally. That attracts more people to come here illegally, something normal people don't want.

    OR you could do what is happening right now and that is places like New York under pressure from Trump are actually enforcing laws. Deporting people instead of catch and release. Some of these people are multiple offenders here illegally and everyone knows it. Yet we have people here advocating for a system that won't deport them. If you take away penalties for being a criminal, crime goes up, if you enfore laws - crime goes down. Good guys win...

    Whats that about wilful ignorance and misinformation? Im simply calling yall out for having more energy to argue for people who are possibly terrorists and not caring about the thousands of women and children who die trying to crosss the border or are exploited by cartels trying to make it here. All you care about is your votes so you can get your policies. More of these people come here and you offer them places to stay for free while other citizens struggle... all for votes.

    Again, you have to live with yourself and who you are but don't come barking up this tree because I sleep just fine knowing which side Im on.


    "Heavily militarized" by Biden? Lol - I guess we know where you're getting your news from.

    You dont care about gender? Are men or women more likely to commit crimes and/or be apart of a gang/cartel/terrorist organization? Interesting thought process you have.

    You're not advocating for the Mexican man to be you neighbor you're inviting him in everyone elses house because of your own ideology. This is the same argument with regards to books with sexual content in elementary school libraries. Some people think it should be there for their kids to see and others think there is a time and place for it. I can only imagine what side of the fence you are on with that topic... Anyway, you didn't answer the question and it is exactly the question you cant answer because your stance goes out the window. You would not just let anyone in your home. The fact that you don't care who you let in and that person could kill your next door neighbor is exactly why your stance on that is thankfully what not many sane people want. You don't care because nothing has happened TO YOU. I'd imagine if they started trying to show up at your door in your cosey little suburban house outside of reality, you'd lock it up quick. Guaranteed.

    I think its funny to look down on a real person giving you an unedited perspective from ground zero and you'd rather get your news spoon fed to you from the MSM. You're either easily fooled, extremely biased or to steal an insult from your friend, wilfully ignorant. Its your choice. Ill take real people on the streets over edited footage for simpletons who cant think for themselves.

    Crime declining and crime being down to extreme lows that is "historic" are two things. However, you can interpret the results how you please. Trust me, I know you will try to skew it towards your argument so dont bother. Feel free to watch anything other than your spoon fed MSM talking points. It may open your eyes one day.

    Hell, you guys may finally figure out why you lost to Trump. Judging by the responses here though, that aint happening. Im here for it too. :D
     
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  6. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    Precision policing that has never been done before to record historic lows and not the over 100k people that have been deported on top of the deterrent of not being able to get caught and released anymore? You're right ... it's just normal policing and crime rates dropping organically.

    BTW I got some swamp land that would make a great foundation for a skyscraper, you interested?
     
  7. mdgator05

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    No, it has been heavily militarized for a couple of decades now. It was just heavily militarized during Biden as well (likely, more so). The Border Patrol Budget was $8 billion in 2024 (which is a massive increase over previous years, it should be noted). You can add to that the billions in capital expenditures each year.

    Cool. So since you are more likely to commit crimes, we should treat you as less than women as well?

    That is equally dumb. I am saying that he can live in his house. The country is not a person's house.

    Lol, what? No, having an immigrant as a neighbor has nothing to do with sexual books at libraries except in your weirdo version of resentments.

    I don't invite many US citizens into my house. I would be happy to invite an immigrant that I knew and befriended into my house. No, I won't be inviting random people into my house, regardless of their immigration status. Again, it is an absurdly dumb metaphor, as I have no problem with my neighbor being an immigrant or a US citizen, but that doesn't mean that I invite them to sleep in my bed.

    My US citizen neighbor could kill somebody too. I don't spend my days imagining immigrants are going to kill people any more than I do US citizens.

    Fun story: I lived for two years in the same building as actual MS-13 members in Maryland during grad school (as well as about 5x as many peaceful, law-abiding immigrants). Perhaps you shouldn't assume you know about my life.

    "Unedited." Yeah, I looked at his Youtube page. Clickbait titles and AI pictures for thumbnails. Yeah, I look down on people that are monetizing fear to scare you...in your "cosey little suburban house." I actually look up the numbers when I want to know something, not what some guy on Youtube tells me.

    Crime was declining faster in 2024 than it has so far in 2025. The crime rate decline in 2024 was historic. And the decline in 2023 and 2022 were extremely rapid as well. 3 straight years of rapid declines lead to a low level. Who knew?

    It is funny when you accuse others of being spoonfed opinions and being too partisan, then give me your opinions generated from right-wing randos on Youtube (declaring them "fair") and right-wing talking points. The goal of those videos that you watch: getting you to click on the video and monetize that click. Not accuracy. Accuracy doesn't get clicks. You know what does? Fear. Anger. Negative emotion in general. And it appears to have worked to get the clicks from you. I don't need my information from such folks.

    As I stated, my positions on immigration don't resemble either major party. They are more consistent with libertarian positions about immigration. For most of the history of this country, despite concerns about how dangerous immigrants were, we had actual open borders (where you just showed up, they wrote your name and info down, tested you for a couple of diseases, and let you into the country). I am not particularly prone to in-group/out-group emotional and fear-based arguments about scary immigrants.
     
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  8. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    This is why I never come here to have long drawn out conversations with any of you. As the election results have shown you, you all have a big problem. You can point the finger everywhere you want but its really you people and your ideology isn't popular. You got waxed by the two time and I don't mean president, felon.

    YOU and your politicians and your ideology is the problem. Im not about to sit here and have conversations with a wall or someone that loves arguing so much so you have to misrepresent others arguments. Whether its for your own pleasure or just because you're a stick in the mud, I don't play games like that. The truth is you all simply like to play mind games and get in a battle of semantics to cover up your skewed sense of the world. You know what I meant and if you don't.. Im not going to be the one to help you.

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    This is why nobody likes your kind as shown by the election results.

    Feel free to pat eachother on the back in your little echo chamber. Make sure to check under your bed for the two time.. President. Toodles.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    It is funny that you lob insults whenever confronted by a different perspective and imply or outright state that people holding such opinions are brainwashed, but when confronted with information that differs from what some guy on Youtube said, and that you wanted to believe, you fold into this.

    Enjoy Youtube videos that an algorithm chose to make you angry/scared without having to deal with any contrarian information. I will continue engaging with topics that I find interesting, allowing me to research them effectively to generate my own knowledge and further refine my opinions, and, in turn, stating my opinion/arguments.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    is it beachfront or with a long view over the bay close to good healthcare and airport?

    lots of swamp have thick layers of hard rock not far below, its what helps keep the water table suspended to keep the swamp healthy
     
  11. demosthenes

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    You have a very hard time admitting you’re wrong. Why is that?

    And as g8trgr8t said, skyscrapers are built on swamplands all the time. Hell, the tallest building in the US is built on swamplands. Large swaths of Manhattan were a combination of tidal zones, marshes and swampland. It’s actually pretty common for coastal cities.
     
  12. wgbgator

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    Literally one of the indictments against King George in the declaration:


     
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  13. gator_jo

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    ^ Trumpers don't mind crime and/or criminality, when it's committed by or endorsed by their criminal leader.

    We can't even count the instances, at this point. But here we are watching them support insanely flagrant violation of the Constitution. Four years ago we saw them tolerate trying to overturn an election.


    We're sort of (way!) past the point of debate: Trump is simply a criminal, and both MAGA and the Republican Party are enablers and supporters of criminality.

    Every conversation should explicitly acknowledge that.
     
  14. GatorRade

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    Right here
    If the Supreme Court rules 9-0 someone shouldn’t be deported, they shouldn’t be deported no matter what they did.
     
  15. sierragator

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    That doesn't seem to matter any more.