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Alien Enemies Act - Attempted - Blocked Again - Another L

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. gator_jo

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    He seems to have scurried away from the mistruth that he told. It's the MAGA way.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    'Government abducting people': Masked DHS agents take scholar into custody without charges - Alternet.org

    Another academic has been arrested by President Donald Trump's Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on legally dubious grounds, according to a new report.

    Politico reported Wednesday that Indian national Dr. Badar Khan Suri was recently arrested outside of his Virginia home by "masked agents" who said they were with the DHS. Suri — who is in the United States legally on a student visa and who is married to a U.S. citizen — was not charged with any crime and has no criminal record, yet he is being targeted for deportation and awaiting transfer to Texas.

    Suri is being put into deportation proceedings under the same vaguely worded statute that the Trump administration invoked after it arrested Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil (a legal permanent resident and Columbia University graduate student who led pro-Palestine protests last year). That statute claims that an administration has the authority to deport any foreign-born resident who it suspects could be a threat to U.S. foreign policy.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    the judge seems like he is tired of it and ready to rule against his ability to use war time powers against non-conventional groups

    how much is it going to cost to fly them all back? how many civil servants were fired to pay for that political stunt? add in Guantanamo roundtrip tickets and they are running up quite the tab

    how much did that private airline transport company donate to djt?

    'Intemperate and disrespectful language': Federal judge fed-up with tone of Trump admin filings, promises 'consequences' for officials who violated deportation order

    A federal judge in Washington, D.C., on Friday, took the Trump administration to task over its use of an 18th-century wartime power to summarily deport more than 100 alleged Venezuelan gang members to a notorious prison in El Salvador without due process. The case quickly became a legal tinderbox, beginning when the administration allegedly ignored a court order directing it to have two planes full of migrants immediately returned to the country.

    U.S. District Judge James Boasberg wasted no time in calling out Deputy Assistant Attorney General Drew Ensign over the Justice
    Department’s conduct in connection with the case, particularly highlighting the tone and tenor the government has employed in recent court filings.

    The judge said the filings contained “the kind of intemperate and disrespectful language that I am not used to hearing from the United States.”

    Boasberg also repeatedly indicated that he was skeptical that President Donald Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 could be used during peacetime and against a nebulously defined “enemy” — in this case the Venezuelan gang Tran de Aragua (TdA) — as opposed to a foreign government.
     
  4. sierragator

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    Orange skidmark et al will drag it out, appeal it to their homies on the scotus in hopes a a favorable ruling. If they don't get that, they'll just ignore it. Next.
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    'Null and void': Ex-DOJ prosecutor reveals 'big problem' Trump now has in federal court

    CNN legal analyst Elie Honig — a former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York — didn't buy the White House's explanation. He explained that if "other people handled" the proclamation, as Trump mentioned, then it could potentially lead to Judge Boasberg automatically striking down the proclamation itself.

    "If that's true, if Donald Trump did not actually sign that proclamation, it's a big problem because the law specifically requires a proclamation by the president," Honig said. "The law says that there has to be, the president has to make a public proclamation of the event. So if he was telling the truth, if in fact, he did not sign this thing, everything that followed, the deportation of these individuals, was all illegal, was all null and void. That's why they're trying to walk it back with this ridiculous attempt to walk the tightrope."

    Boasberg has given the administration until Tuesday to explain why the deportation flights were still carried out despite his order demanding the planes be turned around until the issue of the Alien Enemies Act could be litigated. He has also not ruled out contempt proceedings for the administration if he rules that the White House deliberately ignored his order. Trump has called for the George W. Bush-appointed jurist to be impeached.
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    this is the editorial board at the Murdoch owned, conservative WSJ..

    'Better be careful': WSJ editorial warns Trump's 'lousy taunts' primed to 'backfire' - Raw Story

    President Donald Trump is "taunting" Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts — and he "better be careful," warned the conservative Wall Street Journal editorial board, because it could "backfire."
    The board wrote Friday evening about Trump's downplay of Roberts' stern rebuke earlier in the week.

    On Tuesday, Roberts issued a rare public statement rebuking Trump, who hours earlier had demanded the impeachment of U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, who had ruled against the administration's deportation plans. In his statement, Roberts said, "For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."

    "The White House strategy of bashing judges and jamming the Supreme Court could backfire in spectacular fashion," the Journal warned, adding that "guessing the thinking at the High Court is a fraught exercise" — but that one thing we know is Roberts "hates being dragged into political fights."

    "He prizes the reputation of the Court as a neutral arbiter of the law and protector of the Constitution," the board noted. And while his statement was a "matter-of-fact summary of the law," the Journal's editors "bet he was none too pleased with being drawn into the fray."
     
  7. G8trGr8t

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    Trump DOJ officials now at risk of going to jail for 'stonewalling' judge: ex-prosecutor

    According to former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance, senior Department of Justice officials who are taking part in stalling turning over information U.S. District Judge James Boasberg are at a legitimate risk of being prosecuted if the judge sees fit.

    Speaking with MSNBC host Ana Cabrera, Vance suggested that what she is witnessing is "stonewalling," including a new filing made by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche claiming there is a Cabinet-level discussion still ongoing over the reasoning for delaying turning over information.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    Judge vows to ‘get to the bottom’ of whether Trump administration violated deportation flight order

    A federal judge chastised a Justice Department attorney Friday, expressing doubt about the legality of the Trump administration’s use of the Alien Enemies Act.

    U.S. District Judge James Boasberg has sparred all week with the Trump administration over whether last weekend’s deportation flights deliberately ignored his orders to turn around airborne planes. President Trump himself has repeatedly attacked the judge, going as far as calling for his impeachment.

    “The government’s not being terribly cooperative at this point, but I will get to the bottom of whether they violated my order, who ordered this and what the consequences will be,” Boasberg said Friday.

    The Justice Department for days has resisted Boasberg’s demands for more information about the flights, citing national security concerns and accusing him of encroaching on the executive branch’s authority.
     
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  9. chuikov

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    MAGA or MARX we still have choice.
     
  10. G8trGr8t

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    state secrest as to whenthe palnes took off? I hoep the judge puts them all behind bars for contempt.

    anyone with flightaware or a porch cam outside the airport can tell what time the flights left

    Trump Admin Considering Invoking State Secrets Privilege To Avoid Giving Information About Venezuelan Deportees

    The Trump administration is considering invoking a measure to avoid complying with an order from a federal judge over the deportation of hundreds of Venezuelans during the weekend, potentially escalating the ongoing legal showdown.

    Concretely, the administration said it could invoke the state secrets privilege to deny information requested by judge James Boasberg regarding the decision to use the centuries-old Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelans to El Salvador.
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    The Trump administration conceded this week that "many" of the deportees were actually hold no criminal record in the U.S., but defended its decision to deport them anyway. A report by the Miami Herald showed that officials conceded the fact in federal court, but doubled down on the decision saying that crossing the border unlawfully is enough reason to deport them.
     
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  11. DawgFanFromAlabam

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    Someone explain this to me please. The Act appears not to be solely a wartime tool:

    Whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies.”
     
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  12. BLING

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    Which govt has done this incursion? The flow of migrants seems to come from several countries. Cubans and Haitians to FL. Not any longer just Mexican brasero’s crossing that Southern border, but Venezuelans, Columbians, and others. (and as there is no brasero program these are all “illegals” as workers).

    Problem as I see it, it isn’t those governments doing any incursions, it’s the people fleeing their terrible governments. Asylum seekers are not “enemies”. That certainly doesn’t mean we must accept every single asylum seeker. But to frame them as enemies or automatically treat them as animals is also just fundamentally wrong. Esp when the market does demand their labor.
     
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  13. AzCatFan

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    Continue to bold the text one more phrase. You get this.

    or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government

    As questioned, which nation or government do the immigrants represent?

    Even if we don't extend the bolded part, what territory is being threatened? Are we in danger of losing any land? And who is going to take it over?
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    dt declared we are being invaded on an EO on day 1

    that is their version of a declaration of war.

    we are being invaded, therefore we are at war

    i said so

    signed
    dear leader

    and the cult rejoiced
     
  15. G8trGr8t

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    you too can be a whacko commie liberal judge if you can read that and understand what it means

    if not, join the cult
     
  16. g8orbill

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    g8tr I see you have taken over for jo jo on beating a dead horse
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    i see you still have a mod badge so I can't block you

    i see you still live in an alternate reality where the skidmark and the worlds richest men are the two biggest victims and old white men are a close second

    good luck with that, hopefully they can find a cure soon
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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  20. vaxcardinal

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    But does he use ChatGPT?
     
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