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Alien Enemies Act - Attempted - Blocked Again - Another L

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. GatorTheo

    GatorTheo GC Legend

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    Holy Moly! Are you a democrat or what? :emoji_smile:

    I guess every American President is arguably the most 'dangerous' person on the planet.

    Crime is going to go 'up' when you start arresting more people. Let people shoplift and crime will go 'down'.

    Does the KKK even do anything anymore? Have they been committing any crimes? I haven't heard of anything in a long time.
     
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  2. AzCatFan

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    Someone entering this country, surrendering himself to ICE and requesting asylum is a LEGAL way to enter the US. To deport someone LEGALLY awaiting an asylum hearing without giving the person due process guaranteed under the Constitution is what Trump did, citing a power a POTUS only has during war time. When was our last official declaration of war? And why should Trump have war time powers now?

    We're not asking to keep all the immigrants in the country. If they are dangerous, have committed crimes, and we can prove without a doubt gang ties, then make them serve their time in jail, and deport them when their sentence is up. Nobody objects to this. But everyone, and I mean every human being, deserves their Constitutional right of due process. Because once the President suspends due process for one group, it's a very slippery slope falling fast straight towards Fascism.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    did you support one for potus?
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    job or family (legal resident) sponsorship, time in country without problems, ability to support yourself, path to green card
     
  5. GatorTheo

    GatorTheo GC Legend

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    You stand behind every jury verdict in history?
     
  6. mdgator05

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    Wait, so being convicted of a bunch of crimes isn't how somebody becomes a member of the group "criminals?" How does one gain membership in that group then?
     
  7. GatorTheo

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    Every convicted person throughout American history was guilty in your opinion?
     
  8. mdgator05

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    I note that you did not answer the question. How about you answer my question and then I will answer your question?
     
  9. GatorTheo

    GatorTheo GC Legend

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    You responded to my question without answering it. You first.

    You don't really need to answer. I know your answer. The criminal justice system is greatly flawed other than when they convict someone you don't like. Am I correct?
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    no but I can judge a man by a lifetime of public actions, no jury needed.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    People have been exonerated. So no, not every jury verdict has been accurate. Now, how do you decide if somebody is a "criminal?"
     
  12. GatorTheo

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    So the fact that someone was convicted of a crime doesn't prove to you that they were guilty. Is that correct?
     
  13. G8trGr8t

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    Occams razor. Man has a proven history of crooked biz deals. Evidence was solid.
     
  14. GatorTheo

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    I generally assume people found guilty are guilty.

    But if I saw someone convicted by their political rivals (who campaigned that they were going to convict their political rival) and 90% of the legal community said the case was spurious, I'd probably question the verdict.
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    The jury are his "political rivals?" Because that is who convicted him.

    And can you provide evidence for your claim that "90% of the legal community said the case was spurious?"
     
  16. G8R92

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    Which part of the Constitution is it violating?
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    indicted by and convicted by a panel of jurors...you're true colors are showing
     
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  18. ajoseph

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    I’m curious… which juror that literally found him guilty was a political rival?
     
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  19. gator_jo

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    Oh stop your prevaricating for your political hero. If an entire empaneled jury was in fact your felon's "political rivals", then that's on his legal team.

    Link or lie?

    Remember- this isn't the place to just say things that aren't true. (That's a Trump speech or rally)

    To be fair; we will accept if you admit that you are wrong and simply had no idea what you were talking about.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    this is actually happening in the USA


    I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped | US immigration | The Guardian

    There was no explanation, no warning. One minute, I was in an immigration office talking to an officer about my work visa, which had been approved months before and allowed me, a Canadian, to work in the US. The next, I was told to put my hands against the wall, and patted down like a criminal before being sent to an Ice detention center without the chance to talk to a lawyer.

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    She then told me they had to send me back to Canada. That didn’t concern me; I assumed I would simply book a flight home. But as I sat searching for flights, a man approached me.“Come with me,” he said. There was no explanation, no warning. He led me to a room, took my belongings from my hands and ordered me to put my hands against the wall. A woman immediately began patting me down. The commands came rapid-fire, one after another, too fast to process.
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    For two days, we remained in that cell, only leaving briefly for food. The lights never turned off, we never knew what time it was and no one answered our questions. No one in the cell spoke English, so I either tried to sleep or meditate to keep from having a breakdown. I didn’t trust the food, so I fasted, assuming I wouldn’t be there long.

    On the third day, I was finally allowed to make a phone call. I called Britt and told her that I didn’t understand what was happening, that no one would tell me when I was going home, and that she was my only contact.