Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

2025 NCAA Tournament Central

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by ETGator, Mar 16, 2025.

  1. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Hall of Fame

    1,401
    472
    1,898
    Oct 7, 2014
    Haugh 100-1 for final four most valuable player. Should we win it all it's probably Clayton winning it, but maybe..? Haha
     
  2. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

    9,085
    1,746
    1,478
    Apr 3, 2007
    Right here
    KenPom numbers those years just weren’t as high. Our highest ever rating was the 2013 team, which also had its rating drop a bunch in the final weeks of the season. My KenPom subscription elapsed, but if anyone still has one, I’d love to know what was their peak rating that year.
     
  3. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

    10,267
    4,423
    3,293
    Apr 8, 2007
    I have a KenPom subscription but I don't think that I can track their running number for the season.

    I figure that I owe Ken continuing support. I have been a subscriber since the beginning and for many years his analytics helped me win a lot of decently sized office pools. One year I came in my first and my wife came in second. IIRC I won the year before and the year after as well. Sagarin Predictor was also a good source of info but that is long gone.

    Now everybody knows about KenPom and uses it so I have lost that competitive edge.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Hall of Fame

    1,401
    472
    1,898
    Oct 7, 2014
    That was the year we ran into Michigan with Burke and Stauskas went off? That Michigan team was loaded with pros if remember right.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

    9,085
    1,746
    1,478
    Apr 3, 2007
    Right here
    That’s awesome. And yes the secret is definitely out.

    For some reason, I remembered him tracking game by game ratings, but perhaps it’s only for the current season? Or maybe I’m just wrong altogether.
     
  6. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

    10,267
    4,423
    3,293
    Apr 8, 2007
    The big reason why "upsets" are down is that the selection committee now looks at KenPom. I used to be able to find 5 or 6 likely upsets because "name brand" teams or teams with weak schedules and gaudy records getting over seeded. This year only one glaring upset waiting to happen was Memphis losing to a 12 seed. I gave that info to a friend and he is leading his office pool.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  7. eastowest

    eastowest GC Hall of Fame

    23,903
    8,787
    6,031
    May 13, 2007
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  8. hawaiigator

    hawaiigator GC Legend

    979
    390
    1,718
    Sep 9, 2018
    Does Kenpom factor in strength of schedule or anything? I know Duke beat up on a lot of lower Quad teams.
     
  9. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

    9,085
    1,746
    1,478
    Apr 3, 2007
    Right here
    Yes, it does. The overall KenPom rating can be somewhat interpreted as the number of points by which the team in question would be expected to beat an average team of that year. If Duke is playing a lower quad team, say Miami, the model would expect Duke to win by a lot, let’s say 25 points. If Duke were to win by 20, their KenPom rating would actually go down.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  10. hawaiigator

    hawaiigator GC Legend

    979
    390
    1,718
    Sep 9, 2018
    So really our UT and UGA game really bit us badly
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. eastowest

    eastowest GC Hall of Fame

    23,903
    8,787
    6,031
    May 13, 2007