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2025 Class Strong Finish

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by Bowiegator, Nov 19, 2024.

  1. fox

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    And perhaps, just perhaps, there is some development happening as well.
     
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  2. Wanne15

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    I could make more money and have less cost of living if i were willing to live in Georgia too but id be in Georgia. I chose a long time ago ti never leave the beach, its just unthinkable.
     
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  3. Wanne15

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    But florida coaches are forced to teach still i believe. My young neice's husband just graduated and is in his second year coaching. He has to teach at a different school within the county as one wants him as a football coach but they dont need teachers. Academicslly, all the teachers want to teach there over all the other schools in the county.
     
  4. Wanne15

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    All top trams are bringing in s handful every year because even the 4 and 5* kids have a fairly high failure rate and need to be supplemented. Theres also that thousand or so 3* kids that go to lesser schools and were either missed or clearly underated. . Those kids srent staying at podunk state when the big boy are throwing cash at them. Badger is a great example. Hes far better than the scouting services said he was. Sitting out a year kept kids like him in place but with instaportal. , Arizona St didnt stand a chance.
     
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  5. Wanne15

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    Jakobi from Pensacola Catholic. Usualy have great baseball teams. Baseball coach retired and my buddy was his assiy and took over but he retired too. Not sure the program is going to continue to be as strong ax it was the last twenty years .
     
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  6. hhpgator

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    You’re correct that FL are still required to be teachers, where as GA schools just require a teacher to be on staff and allows community coaches after the requirement for having a teacher is met. The greatest disparity is in pay. The supplemental pay for football coaches here easily puts the best in the six figure range. My MIL taught in FL for 40 years and never broke $80K.

    As for the good schools not having positions, most teachers prefer to teach the better schools academically. However, the requirement to teach will prevent the best schools from filling out their teaching positions with coaches. Much like NIL laws, FL continues to put itself at a disadvantage on the gridiron.
     
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  7. hhpgator

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    I’m a native Floridian who wasn’t a fan of the beach. My wife though loves them. My salary is three times hire here in ATL than it was in Tally. But to live around the sixth largest city in the country, you won’t have a lower cost of living comparatively unless you’re moving from Dade/Broward. Even then it won’t be a major drop in cost. Now if I could take my salary to Valdosta, sure. It all depends on where you reside in the state.
     
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  8. SeabudGator

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    Interesting. I’m going to throw out another theory recognizing that both our theories can be true.

    I believe the rating services look at the top schools and say “if UGA and bama” recruit them, they must be 4 or 5 stars. They used to do that with uf and fsu. Floridas population is 23 million while Georgia is 11M and Alabama is 4M. Accounting for demographic differences (ie retirees in florida) simply cannot account for the difference in more players ranked higher in far less populated states. Thus, my guess that raters are biased toward current marquee teams.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    I guess they get around it by having him teach at a different school within the dame county. He gets his teacher pay which is the bulk of his check and a little bonus for being a coach. The little bonus is laughable at best but he wants to coach.
     
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  10. hhpgator

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    That’s laughable and sad at the same time. For the 2023–2024 school year, Florida’s average starting teacher pay is over $48,000, and the average teacher salary exceeds $54,000. In my county in North ATL area, a first year teacher out of college starts at $56,074. With coaching bonuses, some GA teachers easily make six figures at schools invested in winning. Here ours get money from outside of their employer.
     
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  11. Gatorhead

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    hhp, but you have not mentioned the BEST aspect of Atlanta living, the absence of traffic! LOL
    I kid, I kid, my sis recently moved from Smyrna, I hung out there alot. Atlanta is a great city but my oh my, the traffic!
     
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  12. hhpgator

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    Ha. I didn’t mention it for two reasons. The first is I live 54 miles from the downtown Five Points center. The second is I’m full time remote and surrounded by farm land. ;) ATL catches a lot of crap, but I’ve really enjoyed everything it has to offer. From dining on Buford highway to downtown action, and proximity to some amazing parks. Vistas, waterfalls, and canyons are all a short drive away.

    It’s too bad the GOP state of GA won’t invest in its greatest asset. Even without the state assistance, ATL has become a major city both nationally and internationally. It’s hosted the Olympics, Superbowls, and now has an upcoming World Cup!
     
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    I lived in Atlanta for ten years after UF. Traffic in Atlanta isn’t bad. The problem is the idiots in the suburbs.
     
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  14. hhpgator

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    Traffic really only sucks on the major highways. 400/85/75 are a mess daily. What ATL really needs is a real rail system for navigating the Metro area. Having one N/S and one E/W to parking garages is a travesty. Outside of the Centennial Park area, you pretty much have to drive. GDOT doesn’t allow the gas tax to be used for regional rail, so all we get are new “Express lanes.”
     
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  15. paidinfull

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    Exorbitant costs for sports coaches in high school should be funded by boosters/outside sources, unless the program itself earns enough to cover it. I damn sure don’t want my tax money going towards overpaying high school sports coaches.
     
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  16. hhpgator

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    Do you live in GA? If not, then your tax dollars are safe. ;) If you do, then your local coaches thank you for your contribution to excellence.

    Your complaint sounds like the old people of Pinellas County voting against a new library for the kids because their kids were grown. They then proceeded to fill the library after it was built. If that is what the elected officials choose to do with the funding, they will get community feedback in November.
     
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    I was responding to the last sentence in your post. I’m saying I’m fine with not having the highest paid coaches down here in FL. They waste enough of my money down here already.
     
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    So... Georgia has better high school football coaches and we have better athletes? Makes perfect sense to me. :D
     
  19. gators1994

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    I think it is very likely they all come back. Banks is probably my biggest concern because his star is on the rise and he has NFL size.
     
  20. gators1994

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    Definitely some truth to this. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.