20.00 a hour for mcdonalds

Child slavery in your book right?

 

I didn't say McDonald's was the equivalent. I asked if paper boy type jobs should still exist and can be a good thing. But lets be honest, paperboy is more work than handing a bag out a drive thru.

There is always a place for such jobs. My kid doesnt need a living wage, but does need to learn about getting to work on time, working with a team etc.

 

I’ve never worked in the FF industry but I feel like people must be understating the stress and work involved with dealing with all the timers, various stations, special orders, rude customers, etc. I can imagine jobs that must be far easier.

 

Sure, that is all people there do. The bag magically filled itself with food that had been cooked.

Your school lets students show up whenever they want? And how is a paperboy job teaching somebody to work with a team?

Let's be honest, what lessons are kids learning by working a fast food job that they couldn't learn by doing some form of charity work, such as helping build a house? This notion that massive fast food companies shouldn't have to pay much in wages because they are teaching life lessons instead is a bit much.

 

There is definitely a correlation between labor exploitation and the amount someone talks about "learning life lessons, etc." You hear it most in child labor, unpaid internships, college athletics ... hmm. Guess the life lesson of honest work deserving honest pay isnt in the lesson plan.

 

Used to be called learning a trade before people were conned into taking 150k in loans for a Bogus degree. 2 people would come to an agreement that one would learn a trade form someone else. That senior would then use some of their free time to help teach said trade and in turn the senior would financially benefit while the apprentice would get the benefit of experience. Not a super difficult concept and still used Today by younger savvy enough to figure out in an age of handouts, they will stand out for all the right reasons by asking for apprenticeship

 

Its used by people who can afford not to work for money to better position themselves, it doesnt benefit the savvy, it benefits the people privileged enough to have the luxury of not needing to sell their labor to make rent, pay bills, etc. Perhaps their savvy is more in convincing their parents or partner to pay for stuff while they get "experience" instead of money.

 

I grew up on four acres. The neighbors were on their own for their yard work! Thankfully I got a bunch of free goodies (like a roof and food), so I felt like it was a fair enough deal.

Personally glad I didn't have to get a job. I do recall one weekend, for example, my dad randomly made me work selling and loading Christmas trees at his friend's business. It wasn't bad, and I don't even remember if I got paid. I do remember being sad because I was working during the UF/FSU game. That was really unconscionable.

 

Um. The person at the window doesn't make the food. That isn't how it works. Some FF places literally hire people to hand the food out

 

And the places that do that expect people to manage high traffic expediting. Surprisingly, for profit companies don't hire people exclusively to hand people bags every once in a while. They require a bit more than that for wages.

 

I did and made $20 bucks for about 40 minutes of work. Would I have done it for minimum wage at the time? Not a chance. That would have been like $2.83. I also worked collecting carts at a military commissary and made >$12 an hour doing that when minimum wage was $4.25. Yes, all of these were part time positions but the wage itself was a living wage at the time.

The thought I see in this thread that someone should be paid less because they don’t need it because they’re living at home, their spouse makes enough for the family, or it’s a second job is quite the silly notion. How about we apply that to millionaires and billionaires?

 

I mean doesn't FL fast food restaurants pay their employees pretty good too starting out? I know it's not 7.25 an hour.

 

Lots of discussion about what fast food places “should” pay. Some seem to think it is a low number because kids don’t need much money. Others think it should be enough to support a family of 4.

What about supply and demand? They should pay what it takes to hire people to do the job. Whether that’s minimum wage or $20.

 

commissary jobs were great. Collect carts, help people with their groceries, get tips. Money was flowing on the weekends.

 

If fast food jobs were just meant for kids, who’s going to work the breakfast through 5 o’clock shifts? If McDonalds doesn’t want to pay employees more, how about they just open for dinner only so they can staff with just high school kids. How would that business model work out for them?