2,000 mules

Expect these are real drop boxes that later had election officials come by and collect them to be counted for the election.
Come back to reality and lets try to have an adult conversation.

 

what? so, a person can't copy 100 ballots, put on dark clothes & gloves & dump the fake ballots in a REAL drop box? Come back when you get to within 125 years of the current technology. my phone has been within inches of a ballot box today, 4 times Fri. oh, no!

 

You realize that every grocery store had gloves at the time, right? So no, it isn't really odd. Some people used gloves during the pandemic. And can you provide evidence to your last claim specifically involving ballot boxes?

First, "a few meters" is not fine enough to claim that a person went to a box. Second, there are substantial errors with that level as well (such as issues with specific phones and cell service that cause substantial errors). And, again, the video evidence from somebody that is misinforming you about the data in the first place should not be taken at face value either.

False. Election officials are allowed to do it in many states. Caregivers (who work at nursing homes, assisted living facilities, or similar facilities) in many states are allowed to do it. In fact, an employee of a nursing home would be more likely to use gloves as well, wouldn't they?

 

Of those surveillance videos we saw, they were all rubber gloves, and most took them off right after they dropped off the ballots. Again it's not the only odd part.

Umm they use the same info regarding unique Ids to solve murder cases. Its precise enough that if you can couple it with other evidence, it works to put a person in the location. Again, they claim they have surveillance footage of each unique ID that always matches up to the various location on video. You going to claim the surveillance footage is wrong too?

Election officials would not be taking ballots from nursing homes to ballot drop boxes. You are wrong once again.

 

Another fraud case bites the dust.

 

i never said that. but, when embarrassing yourself, you might as well take the big bath.

 

And this is why engaging bad faith nonsense in good faith is rarely worth it. You aren't looking for answers. You are looking for things to make you feel better about losing an election that your "side" lost. So this is of value to you, like any other product. The truth of it is unimportant. In fact, stating untrue things can be of more value, because false information can be designed to more perfectly help your feelings.

 

so, it takes next to no sophistication to fake fraud. I agree.

 

Wow, you mean a carefully curated set of videos all had the same behavior. Strange that. So what is the theory as to how this happened: some group put out a call to hire thousands of employees for voter fraud and told everybody to wear gloves while doing it?

You can place somebody in a general area at a time, which, for some crimes can be evidence. It turns out that ballot boxes were often placed in locations where many people walked by, including, often the same people. So it isn't evidence of wrongdoing in this case.

Well, if they claim it, that is all there is to it, right?

I used the word "or." Election officials in some states can collect ballots and drop them off legally. In some states, caregivers at nursing homes and assisted living facilities, and hospitals and the like can collect ballots.

So you are wrong in your claim that nobody would be allowed to engage in that behavior. I strongly suspect that you aren't familiar with the laws in places like Arizona (which is understandable) and that this movie did not accurately provide you information as to their laws. Here is their law:

16-1005 - Ballot abuse; violation; classification

Notice section I, which contains the exceptions. Notice how "caretaker" is listed. Will you admit to being wrong about that?

 

hope he's not a parent cuz he lost his shit over a temper tantrum & it wasn't even a surprise one.

 

I just walked out of my final & took some pics of my ballot box...will post soon. It is in the middle of huge parking lot, cars park within feet of it & it is on a main thoroughfare that I have walked by twice already today cuz it lies between me & coffee, breaky burritos & beer.

 

lol yes that's the point of the movie... to show an actual surveillance video of people doing something rather suspicious. It's sad you don't see it odd that a person could visit and drop off multiple ballots at different locations many times during a short time period.

The point of geolocation tracking was to see if they were in areas of more than one particular location. They were specifically looking at drop boxes within non-profit locations.
They found many people doing it at 4 AM in the morning. Are you going to try and claim these random locations all visited at 4 AM where no one else is around must be a mistake as well right?

I'm not saying this is a fraud yet, but it damn is sure enough to find these people and question them. Some people went to boxes 20 plus times. If they average 5 ballots per box visit, that would be 100 ballots. They would need to somehow know 100 family members or people that lived in their household.

 

89 > 11*, so which campaign had the motivation to do this**?

* at least if you are not wearing rubevision glasses

** & by "this" I mean FAKE the fraud

We can go battle police in DC, but we can't org a little fake ballot fraud?!??!

 

This is the major problem with these votes, on one side, 'you can't prove they were illegal' but on the other hand, you can't prove they were legal votes either. Works both ways.

 

stay hydrated cuz 1.5 years of crying can't be good.

 

First of all, I don't see how any of us knows if this data is accurate or not. That it really shows the same people coming near drop boxes over and over or not.
But looking at dropbox locations in Northeast Florida, libraries are the most common site. But you've also got shopping centers, community centers, rec centers ... At least one of the rec centers is primarily for youth basketball leagues.
It's pretty easy to imagine the same people coming by there fairly often.

 

Over the entire country? I'd find it odd if that didn't happen. Low probability events become essentially guaranteed when repeated over enough trials. And how many videos matched with specific geolocation data (showing the initial data) were there in the movie? Or is it more that the movie told you that was what they were showing you?

Okay, now we are switching it's purpose. So the goal was to show people that were near multiple boxes. And being close to a box is evidence of wrongdoing?

How many is "many people?" And how many times did those people visit at 4 AM?

And this is what I mean by wanting to believe. Why would somebody committing fraud choose to do so in 5 ballot drops rather than simply dropping a bunch at once? It takes a basic critical mind to poke a huge hole in that theory.

BTW, I notice that you didn't admit to having been wrong about caretakers.