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“Imane Khelif Wins First-Ever Gold Medal In Freestyle Domestic Violence”

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  1. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    DSD never matters. Boils down to XY or XX.
     
  2. gator95

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    All I'm saying is this person tested twice that we know of and had XY chromosomes both times. Shouldn't have been able to compete in the Olympics imo.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    So it is down to XY or XX ?
     
  4. gator95

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    Honestly, what do you think the IOC was going to say? That they knowingly let a person with male chromosomes fight in the female boxing? Seriously? This is politics 101. It's like the D's saying Biden stepped down for the good of the country. You believe that also?
     
  5. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    This whole thing is farcical on many levels.

    Ex: Italian boxer bails after two punches, falling to her knees with a despairing, “It’s not fair!” Then later apologizes to the hardest hitting ‘her’ she’s ever faced.
     
  6. gator95

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    This seems perfectly normal...

    Boxing Coach Reveals Imane Khelif Was Too Dangerous To Train Against Women During Pre-Olympics Retreat

    Rafa Lozano, a former Olympian boxer and Olympic boxing trainer, spoke with Radio Marca following Khelif's first-round win in Paris. He made it very clear that he did not agree with the International Olympic Committee's (IOC) decision to allow Khelif to fight in the women's division.

    Lozano's opinion wasn't solely based on Khelif's failed gender test, but also from what he saw first hand from the fighter during a training retreat in Madrid, Spain ahead of the Olympics.

    "I don’t see it as fair. Everyone can think what they want, but that’s how I see it," Lozano told the outlet. "They were doing a retreat at Blume and we couldn’t put her with anyone. We put [Khelif] with Jennifer Fernandez and it hurt her. Whoever we put [Khelif] with was injured."

    Lozano went on to claim that in order to avoid Khelif injuring female fighters, the coaches wound up pairing Khelif up with Jose Quiles, one of Spain's top-ranked male boxers.
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Maybe she sucks at boxing and has a poor mentality? Why do you guys see a loser and run to their defense? That's a rhetorical question.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    You missed my point. When did we see pole vaulters drop out because they’ve never seen a guy jump like Mondo ?

    And if you witnessed a woman being battered by a man, would you call her a loser?

    Rhetorical question back atcha.
     
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  9. gaterzfan

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    C’mon ….. the guy’s name even says he’s a man, e.
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    Since I havent witnessed that, I cant say. But I'm not in the habit of inventing things to get mad about like weird online conservatives
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Based on your line of argumentation over 17 pages now, if you were to witness a man beating a woman, I’m afraid your reaction would be “I can’t say.”
     
  12. rivergator

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    Why do you assume the test is accurate?
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    Why do you assume it's not? Are two tests of these type typically inaccurate both times? What is the error rate on the test? Are you just talking out of your ass? Yes.
     
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  14. rivergator

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    I'm not. None of us knows anything about it.
     
  15. okeechobee

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    Tests for international competition are generally pretty accurate. They kinda have to be. It's rather foolish of you to float the idea they are somehow not, without any supporting evidence whatsoever. Surely, there'd be a herd of women who received false XY positives from that test coming forward. Yep, you're just making it up as you go.
     
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  16. rivergator

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    I'm not floating it. I quoted the IOC. My personal knowledge about these tests is exactly what yours is: Zero. I'm not just not pretending I know.
    There's really no reason for the infantile attempts at insults. There's really not.
     
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  17. GatorRade

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    I know what you are saying. I am only suggesting that some less desirable outcomes also follow from what you are saying, causing me to wonder if this is really the test on which we want to base all of our decisions.
     
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  18. gator95

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    Because if it wasn’t, they would’ve appealed the ruling and one and released the results to the public or at least that’s what I would’ve done
     
  19. philnotfil

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    How do you explain her losing in 2022? Was that woman also a man?
     
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  20. okeechobee

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    I follow boxing loosely (used to follow pretty close 10-15 years ago). These tests are virtually 100% accurate. It is standard if there is a positive on the first, to administer a second, but not always. If two tests confirm it, there's no more sure way to test it. The IBA testing protocol is pretty rigorous.

    No one is insulting you for pointing out that you're opting to refrain from common sense and suggesting something asinine. If you want to talk about infantile, it's infantile to suggest not one, but two tests administered by an international competition governing committee were "inaccurate." Forget infantile, it's just stupid.
     
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