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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. slayerxing

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    you say diplomacy, most everyone else would call it capitulation - he’s basically willing to give Russia almost everything they want on the off chance the U.S. can get in on the pillaging of Ukraine too. But I’m glad you were able to come in here to peddle your anti-globalist position, tell everyone except the one guy who has been wrong over and over for years that they’re stupid, and then leave the thread until you do the same thing a month or 2 from now.
     
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  2. chemgator

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    Educated conjecture and speculation, not slavish repetition of absurdly optimistic drivel that comes out of Trump's mouth.
    Then start walkin', son.
    You do know that Russian pilots shot down U.S. pilots during the Korean War, don't you? So, yes, they have killed Americans. They also tried to starve out the U.S. from Berlin after WWII. And they almost started WWIII while trying to place nuclear weapons in Cuba. They aren't innocent victims of Ronald Reagan's or anyone else's propaganda. They are a dangerous country, currently ruled by a dangerous barbarian.

    Afghans were offended that the U.S. abandoned Afghanistan after they defeated our common enemy. 9-11 was not justified, of course. But it was a product of our neglect of a country that desperately needed our help and did not receive it. If you were wiser, you might have empathy for people who were starving, and not be so quick to judge them for allowing a killer to live in their midst. The Afghans were actually pro-western after the war (and before the neglect became apparent). Then Russia extracted some revenge and killed their pro-western leader with an assassin with a gun hidden in a camera at a press conference.

    You'll be glad to hear that Trump is working on cutting the State Department's budget by 50%, including a lot of aid programs to poor countries. That should double the number of starving people in the world, and drastically increase the number of 9-11 attacks that the U.S. faces. Maybe we'll have a new 9-11 every year! Are you looking forward to that? You gonna try working some mental gymnastics to explain how that will be Biden's fault?
     
  3. chemgator

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    Russian general blown up in car bomb attack in Balashikha, Russia.

    Yaroslav Moskalik, Russian general, killed in car blast just outside Moscow ahead of Witkoff-Putin meeting | CNN

     
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  4. Gatorhead

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    As usual Trump is approaching this conflict from a "transactional" point of view or from his Kings Throne on the apprentice.

    He is so far over his head he has no idea what to do. That is to be expected from a man that got into politics with no prior
    political experience, on a whim, and a guy who's primary agenda in 2015 was based on a birther certificate. It's also a person
    that claims capitalistic and economic "genius" yet has filed for what? 8 Bankruptcies?? More? and could not keep a casino afloat.
    That should be clear now to anyone with a 401 plan.

    The only "HOPE" for the USA is that some of his advisers can salve his ego while trying to implement a sane policy.

    His laughable suggestion of solving the conflict in 24 hours prior to taking office is typical of his stupidity.

    He does not seem to understand this isn't some unpaid contractor invoice his business failed to pay and he can avoid
    while litigating the claimant whom he owes out of business. This conflict is the real world. People are dying, every day,
    because of an aggressive, totalitarian dictator that he admires and wants to emulate.

    All the while implementing a foreign policy designed to destroy the geopolitical order established by the allies post WW2.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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  6. BLING

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    Sounds like either mental illness or a sign of things to come with people’s views 100% directed by which particular rabbit hole they go down on social media. Pretty wild to go from extreme left (if that is to be believed) to extreme right conspiracy theorist fighting alongside the Russians within the space of a year.
     
  7. Gatorhead

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    Hi Bling,

    I may have a solution: The Chinese, Russians, N Korea and Iran have conspired to create a nerve agent that was distributed over the U.S.A. by those strange Chinese Balloons, starting around 2014. Of course those balloons were not detected until what? A few of years ago. Sadly, by that time it was too late. This nerve agent clearly imprinted 55% of the population with a synaptic marker, imprinting Trump and his MAGA ideology as the saving grace for the American Experience, it seemed to be particularly effective on the rich, the greedy, the religious, the racists and those with low I.Q,'s.

    An incredible and sophisticated weapon system to destabilize and destroy Democracy. .........

    Meanwhile, why has Hillary and her pizza pedo ring not been incarcerated or deported?
     
  8. CaptUSMCNole

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    I would assume Trump keeps the status quo since Ukraine was willing to make a peace deal but Russia was not.

    I think people need to understand the US needed to show Ukraine was willing to make a peace with Russia, in order to get Russia to the table. Once that happened and Russia did not play ball, it’s now Russia and Putin’s fault.

    If Trump turns off SAG-U, then things are going to get hairy for the AFU and all the countries that are donating to Ukraine. I think as long as the US can call it a “loan” to Ukraine, the status quo will stay. Russia is falling on their own sword right now and the last thing we need to do is try and stop them.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    Kid was 21, few people that age have any kind of well-grounded world view. There are definitely weirdo leftists who convince themselves all Ukrainians are fascist because of the Azov Battalion and everything going on prior was some kind of CIA color revolution. So, he maybe didnt go all horseshoe. Its possible he got strong-armed into the military. Who knows.